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So the search should be for JAMES Cooper..............

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Death
Name: COOPER, James Stanley
Registration district: Hillingdon
County: London
Year of registration: 1989
Month of registration: February
Date of Birth:8 October 1901
Volume no: 13
Page no: 809
Reg no: 289

OR................


Death

Name: COOPER, James Stanley
Registration district: [Staincliffe
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1980
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:12 March 1905
Volume no: 2
Page no: 2686


OR

Death
Name: COOPER, James Stanley
Registration district: Gravesend
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1991
Month of registration: June
Date of Birth:10 September 1916
Volume no: 16
Page no: 1014
Reg no: 691

OR

Death
Name: COOPER, James Stanley
Registration district: Bath
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1992
Month of registration: January
Date of Birth:5 January 1923
Volume no: 22
Page no: 309
Reg no: 192

OR............if the original message is meant to say the the man died young (as opposed to the woman)

Death
Name: COOPER, James S
Registration district: Hackney
County: London
Year of registration: 1948
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:52
Volume no: 5C
Page no: 563

This would fit with the info provided later by the OP, at least by timescale.
I have no idea of the postal district area

Your last set of details could fit as my husband was 3 or 4 y.o. when his father died.
He died in sanatorium from TB which may account for his death being in Hackney.
I will get copy of death certificate.

Now for Kathleen, I feel the record of a birth in Omagh is right as the birth date fits and her family lived in Omagh - can anyone tell me how to obtain a copy of her birth certificate in Ireland please?

Please forgive my ignorance but what does 'OP' stand for?

Many thanks again - I feel things are progressing.

OP = opening post.

Although the birth was in Northern Ireland as it was before partition you can order the cert from Eire online - easier than from Northern Ireland. The site below gives details:

http://www.gov.ie/services/buy-a-birth-certificate/

OP = original poster (in this instance)

Thank you all again,

The web site suggested by Potty for Kathleen's birth certificate needs mothers name, as do most others I have looked at, but found bmd-certificates.co.uk so now await document from them,

I did find one record for James S Cooper and Kathleen Cooper in electoral registers for them living together in 1947 at 4W Peabody Blgs.

I have also discovered record of marriage of Kathleen's sister Annie and W T Harris in Q3 1947, Westminster and she was recorded as having surname "Ash or Armstrong" why would this be please, I went on to find Annie Ash living with Jame Stanley and Kathleen Cooper in 1946 iat 59 Lillington Street (Westminster) .
Maggie

Sorry that you couldn't get the cert from the site I gave - I mentioned that one as I know that the MMN is required for certs from Northern Ireland but didn't think it was from Eire.

As you have found Annie as Ash in 1946, before her marriage (which was in 1949 not1947), there could be more than one reason for the Armstrong. She may have married an Armstrong but for some reason used the name Ash.

Marriages Sep 1949
Armstrong Annie E Harris Westminster 5c 1143
ASH Annie E Harris Westminster 5c 1143


The marriage cert will give you her father's name, which presumably will be the same as Kathleen's.

Good morning, I have just received copy of birth cert for "Kathleen Mullan" which reads as follows:
2) Date and place of birth - 15th April 1912 IRISHTOWN
3) Name - KATHLEEN
4) Sex - FEMALE
5) Name etc of father - Nothing written just a dash in this column.........
6) Name surname and maiden name of mother - MARGARET MULLAN with a
line through "formerly" and " a Domestic Servant " in this column
7) Rank or profession of father - Again, nothing but a dash.
8) Signature, qualification and residence of informant - MARY ANN BROWN,
present at birth, IRISHTOWN
9) When registered - 10th May 1912

Am I to assume she was illegitimate?

Feel like its not much help really.

Definitely...............