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I have found this in The Huddersfield Chronicle and West Yorkshire Advertiser for Saturday, 14 September 1867 under Marriages

On the 11th inst., at the Registry Office, John Street, Mr Green Senior to Miss Mary Lodge, both of Cumberworth.

So this begs the question did they ever marry in a Church?

There are marriage announcements for couples married in Wesleyan Methodist Chapels in this article.

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Palfreyman Lena Wortley 9c 444
Senior Wesley Wortley 9c 444

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=14120&p=localities.britisles.england.gls.general

(above has mention of 1902)


All Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928
Charles Westley Senior Ethel Edith Edwards 31 Mar 1926 York
(as above, but 1920!)

All Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Wesley Senior abt 1875 27 May 1905 Tunisian Montreal, Quebec Liverpool, England

Chris :)

Yes I wondered if that was the only way.

Some of the on line copies of the parish registers are taken from the films made originally by the Mormon church- of the actual registers, where the people concerned signed the sheet. and these in some districts held by the local record office, perhaps that's the way to go.

Thank you all for your input.

It looks like Wesley's grandfather was called George so there could be some confusion around that.

Also 'Green' could have been mistranscribed as 'George'

Margaret,


I'm afraid that you will have to buy that marriage certificate if you want to see how Green signed .................... it might be possible to tell from the copy of the original that you will get.


Your best alternative actually is to find out where the Parish Records are kept and go there in person.


All we see on the internet are copies also ............... which is different from what you seem to want.

Wesley was the younger brother of Whitefield both sons of Green Senior.
Whitefield stayed in Huddersfield and died there in 1951.
The other brother- Wesley, I think died in Canada in 1947.

It is the identity of this Canadian Wesley I am trying to establish. On a marriage in 1920 in Toronto, he gives his father as George Senior and his mother as Mary Lodge.
But he also says that he was born in Stroud, Gloucester.
However there doesn't appear to be anyone of name Senior registered at Stroud in this period.

So a bit of a puzzle.

Name: Wesley Senior
Birth: Jul 1874 - Huddersfield, Yorkshire West Riding

Name: Whitfield Senior
Birth: Apr 1872 - Huddersfield, Yorkshire West Riding


Two different people

Thank you all. I have most of this information, I was keen to see how he wrote his name, as later in 1920 in Canada his son Wesley, gives it as George Senior, and his mother as Mary Lodge. on his own marriage record in Toronto.
Which makes it difficult to be sure of the relationship.
This may be-- as Green was known to his friends and family of course, as George, and officially he was Green.
OR it could be part of Wesley's evasiveness.

thank you for your help

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Birthplace: Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Ecclesfield
Sub-District: High Hoyland
Parish: Silkstone
County: Yorkshire

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Birthplace: Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Ecclesfield
Sub-District: High Hoyland
Parish: High Hoyland
County: Yorkshire

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1903
Registration District: Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 64
Birth Year (Estimated): 1839
Volume: 9A
Page: 212
Line Number: 180

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1841
Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 22
Page: 95
Line Number: 9

Whitfield is the son of Green and Mary

Here's the parents marriage as stated by Margaret



Marriages Sep 1867
LODGE Mary Huddersfield 9a 484
SENIOR Green Huddersfield 9a 484




West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985


Name:Whitfield Senior

Birth Date:abt 1872

Event Type:Marriage

Father:Green Senior <<weaver

Marriage Date:18 Aug 1901

Marriage Age:
29

Spouse:Martha Etha Lodge

Spouse Marriage Age:
29

Archive Location:
Wakefield

Parish or Chapel:
Mount Pleasant Chapel, Mount Street, Lockwood

Spouse Father:
Edward Lodge

Residence Place:
Lockwood

Reel Number:
Liversedge, Lockwood, Low Moor, Luddenden, Manningham, Marsden, Marsh, Mickletown, Middlestow…; WC11

Reference Number:
C111/511

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1839
Registration District: Ecclesfield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Ecclesfield, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 22
Page: 152
Line Number: 18

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1867
Registration District: Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 9A
Page: 484
Line Number: 92

Green Senior probably married one of the following people

Name: Mary Lodge

Name: Green Senior
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 May 1829
Christening Place: Cumberworth, York, England
Father's Name: Charles Senior
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02397-5 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1542256 , Reference ID: item 3 p 111

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the marriage yet for Green Senior and Mary Lodge but I have found a marriage for Whitfield Senior in 1901 to a Martha Ellen Lodge whose father was Green Senior.

Would this marriage be of interest to you?

Name: Whitfield Senior
Birth Date: abt 1872
Event Type: Marriage
Father: Green Senior
Marriage Date: 18 Aug 1901
Marriage Age: 29
Spouse: Martha Ellen Lodge
Spouse Marriage Age: 29
Archive Location: Wakefield
Parish or Chapel: Mount Pleasant Chapel, Mount Street, Lockwood
Spouse Father: Edward Lodge
Residence Place: Lockwood
Reel Number: Liversedge, Lockwood, Low Moor, Luddenden, Manningham, Marsden, Marsh, Mickletown, Middlestow…; WC11

If so, I can send you the image tomorrow

I will have another more detailed look tomorrow

Hi Margaret

Not seeing a parish record at Ancestry but this looks like his baptism



West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910


Name:Green Senior

Parish:Emley, St Michael

Baptism Date:19 May 1839

Father's Name:
George Senior <<Weaver

Mother's name:
Elisabeth Senior

The names of the couple are Green Senior and Mary Lodge. They are I think Methodists, so it might have taken place in a Methodist Chapel, and not all those records are on line.

I am interested to see if he signed as Green, or some other name. He was baptised Green, and it is not unique, but I thought he may have used a more common name.

thank you

What's the name of the couple, Margaret?

I can then have a look on the ancestry site that I subscribed too and see if there is a marriage for them