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It's all speculation until Matt comes back with some details ;-) ;-)
Not pursuing this any further for the time being

Just a comment in passing:

Occasional Copy: D means that changes/corrections to the original registration were made four times.

They could be very minor changes, but we'll never know what they were, or when they were made, without seeing the cert.

This would fit more closely with the 1921 census record

FULLER, WILLIAM GEORGE -
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 320 Occasional Copy: D

This is the 1921 suggested for George.

Croydon Union Homes, For Children, Croydon, Surrey, England

First name(s) William
Parish Croydon
Last name Fuller
Registration district Croydon
Sex Male
Registration district number 39
Birth year 1908
Sub-district West Croydon
Census date 19 June 1921
Sub-district number 3
Age in years 13
Enumeration district number 47
Age as transcribed 13 y
County Surrey
Relationship to head Child, inmate
Country England
Birth place Penge, Surrey, England
Ward of borough or urban district North

1921

Institution name Croydon Union Homes For Children 4 Pawsons Road Croydon

The boy is 13 years of age, which, if accurate, means his birth would have been before 19th June 1908

If we are to help Matt, he needs to add more info.

Birth:

FULLER, WILLIAM GEORGE -
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 283


1911 census posted on page 1.

In 1921 George and Emily, with sons Walter and Charles E, are living in Tottenham.
William isn't with them.

George died in Finsbury reg district in 1931


In 1921 there's a William Fuller, 1908, born Penge, listed alone in Croydon.
I can't tell if that's the right person or not, though it looks very likely.
Maybe someone with a sub to FMP will spot further clues in the record.

William Fuller is such a common name that it's impossible to tell from online records who (or if) he married, or when he died.

How have you worked back to this man? Who did he marry?

Deborah never apparently returned to this thread - she certainly didn’t post any thanks for the help given.

Welcome to Genes and the boards.

As you know, you have added to an old thread. Deborah is still a member, if you click on her name you can send her a pm. If she has kept her email address up to date she will be notified of your message.

However, unlike other sites, neither of you will be notified of any additions to the thread.

Does anyone have more information on the past thread? William Fuller, Emily's son was most likely my great grandfather.

These are the people George says he's staying with.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32, Cuthbert Road, Croydon, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Benjamin Rider Head Married Male 34 1867 Iron Moulder Fulham, Middlesex, England
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Emma E Rider Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Croydon, Surrey, England
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William T Rider Son Single Male 9 1892 - Croydon, Surrey, England
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Albert B Riders Son Single Male 3 1898 - Croydon, Surrey, England
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Sophia Crosswell Aunt Single Female 89 1812 - Croydon, Surrey, England


BENJAMIN RIDER married one of these people
MARY ANN BLACKBURN, >>EMMA ELIZA ALDRIDGE<<

Second marriage for Wallace.


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
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First name(s) WALLACE
Last name JENDEN
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1897
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ WALLACE JENDEN married one of these people
JESSIE ELIZA HOWARD,>> EMILY PAXTON<<
District CROYDON
District number -
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 451

Married 13 years.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
52 Theobald Road Croydon, Croydon, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Wallace Jenden Head Married Male Labourer General 61 1850 Surrey Leatherhead
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Emily Jenden Wife Married Female Midwife 57 1854 Hants Pelinfield
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Fred Reed Stepson Single Male Labourer General 32 1879 Surrey Croydon
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Lizzie Paxtin Stepdaughter Single Female Midwife And Nurse Sick 28 1883 Surrey Croydon
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Sarah Paxtin Stepdaughter Single Female None 23 1888 Surrey Croydon




1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Westfield Road, Croydon, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Wallace Jenden Head Married Male 50 1851 Bricklayer's Labourer Leatherhead, Surrey, England
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Emily Jenden Wife Married Female 48 1853 Monthly Nurse Hampshire, England
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Fred Reid Step Son Single Male 23 1878 Bricklayer's Labourer Croydon, Surrey, England
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Charles E Jenden Son Single Male 13 1888 - Croydon, Surrey, England
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Sarah Paxton Step Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Croydon, Surrey, England



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cornwall Road, Croydon, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Wallace Jenden Head Married Male 40 1851 Bricklayers Labourer Leatherhead, Surrey, England
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Annie Jenden Wife Married Female 35 1856 - Maidenhead, Berkshire, England
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George Jenden Son - Male 14 1877 Errand Boy Norwood, Surrey, England
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Wallace Jenden Son - Male 11 1880 - Norwood, Surrey, England
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Ellen Jenden Daughter - Female 8 1883 - Penge, Surrey, England
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Charles Jenden Son - Male 3 1888 - Croydon, Surrey, England




1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Albert RD, 2, Albert Terrace, Croydon, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Wallace Jender Head Married Male 30 1851 Bricklayers Laborer Leatherhead, Surrey, England
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Fanny Jender Wife Married Female 35 1846 Laundress Maidenhead, Berkshire, England
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George W Jender Son Single Male 4 1877 - South Norwood, Surrey, England
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Wallace Jender Son Single Male 2 1879 - South Norwood, Surrey, England
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Emma Jones Lodger Head Widow Female 47 1834 Laundress Streatham, Surrey, England
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Emma Jones Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar -

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
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First name(s) GEORGE
Last name JENDEN
Birth year 1878
Birth parish PENGE
Birth town PENGE
Birth county SURREY
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 9755
Rank -
Regiment -
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1897
Attestation Day 16
Attestation Month 1
Attestation age years 19
Attestation age months 11
Attestation Corps 4TH BATTALION EAST SURREY REGIMENT
Attestation service number 9755
Series WO96 militia service records 1806-1915


He resides at 32 Cuthbert Road.

He was still serving in the militia, 4th East Surrey Reg. when he enlisted in the Dragoons. He was discharged in 1910 after 13 years service. He fought in the South African Campaign 1900-1902.


British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
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First name(s) GEORGE
Last name JENDEN
Birth year 1878
Birth parish SENGE
Birth town PENGE
Birth county SURREY
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 120
Rank -
Regiment Dragoon Guards
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1897
Attestation Day 4
Attestation Month 2
Attestation age years 19
Attestation age months 11
Attestation Corps Dragoon Guards
Attestation service number 120
Discharge Corps Dragoon Guards
Series WO97 chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913


Father Wallace Jenden, 1 Cornwall Rd, Pitlake, Surrey has been crossed out as NOK and Mrs Rider, 32 Cuthbert Rd, W Croydon has been added.

thank you Jacqueline, yes, I thought that ... I had not seen that earlier now deleted thread

I know about that one.........it's the deleted thread with Jenden on to which I'm referring

this is the thread I mentioned

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1353911

and that one's still there, no reply ...

The other thread was primarily concerned with the paternity of Emily's illegitimate child, and Deborah has obviously deleted it, so she knows how to return

I have asked Deborah to return to her ELIZABETH MARY ALLEN thread where the info given by her was completely wrong ...


there does appear to have been an earlier GEORGE WILLIAM JENDEN thread that google is reporting but not showing


Deborah you need to get a little better sorted on how to use the boards ... offer the information you have (not guesses), read the replies, answer questions ... and not post more than one thread about the same thing.

Hello Deborah and welcome to the boards.


As Deborah is a new poster I'll let her know how to find her replies :-)