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David

David Report 2 Oct 2015 15:29

Having had a clea look of census returns etc I see now that two Alexander Holliday's appear to have been in the US at the same time on various boats, one born in Hexham and the other Liverpool.

David

David Report 29 Sep 2015 17:16

Alexander's parents are as you have posted Catherine, Joseph Holliday 1848-1935 and Mary Sanderson 1848-1898 who married at Hexham in 1870.

They had the following James 1871-1896, Jane 1873-1955, Alice 1875-1903, Mary Annie 1877-1963, George 1880-1968, John 1882-1953, Hannah Lizzie 1884-1981, Florence 1886-1913 and Alexander 25 June 1888-

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2015 16:25

So this must be him

Name: Alexander Holliday
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's name: Joseph Halliday
Mother's name: Mary Halliday
Gender: Male
Where born: Hexham, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Hexham
Ecclesiastical parish: Hexham
Town: Hexham
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Hexham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4246
Folio: 117
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Halliday 43 ---Coachman
Mary Halliday 43
Alice Halliday 15
Mary A Halliday 13
George Holliday 11
John Holliday 9
Hannah L Holliday 7
Florence Holliday 5
Alexander Holliday 2

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2015 16:21

If you think that this family is definately not your Alexander, then are you sure that your Alexander joined the Navy as the naval records seem to fit with above family.
Maybe then your Alexander did something else????

Do you have his birth certificate? If not, then this will be essential to find out his parents names.

David

David Report 29 Sep 2015 16:12

Alexander Holliday born in Hexham had no connection to Liverpool this is a different family who originated from that city.

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2015 16:11

Elizabeth in 1891 with brother Alexander

Name: Elizabeth Holliday
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Adam Holliday
Mother's name: Elizabeth Gibson Holliday
Gender: Female
Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 19a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2991
Folio: 44
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Adam Holliday 52 born: Lowswater, Cumberland,
Elizabeth Gibson Holliday 51 born: Workington, Cumberland
Elizabeth Holliday 17
William Holliday 14 born: Liverpool, Lancashire,
Clara Holliday 11
Alexander Holliday 5 born: Liverpool, Lancashire


Same family in 1901:-
Name: Adam Holliday
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Holliday
Birth Place: Ullswater, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
Search Photos: Search for 'West Derby' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Kensington and West Derby Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Tailor
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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3491
Folio: 36
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
Adam Holliday 62
Elizabeth Holliday 61
xxxx Elizabeth Aiken 27
Clara Holliday 21
Robert Holliday 18 (brother)


David

David Report 29 Sep 2015 16:09

My Alexander was born 25 June 1888 in Hexham, Northumberland so his certificate no is 10b 304

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2015 16:01

Ooops sorry Chris Ho, but great minds and all that. :-)


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2015 15:58

1911 (Find My Past)
Elizabeth Aiken Head Married Female Dressmaker 37 1874 Cumberland Workington
Lilian Aiken Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Lancashire Liverpool
William Aiken Son - Male - 0 1911 Lancashire Liverpool
Robert Holliday Brother Single Male Assurance Clerk 28 1883 Lancashire Liverpool
14 Gilroy Road Boaler St Liverpool, West Derby, Lancashire

(possibly above)

Chris :)

Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
HOLLIDAY Alexander W.Derby 8b 653


(not sure on below though, confusing, perhaps he wasn't 'Naval' at all!)

Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------
HOLLIDAY Alexander Hexham 10b 304

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2015 15:53

Marriage for sister perhaps?

Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
xxxx Aiken William Stewart R W. Derby 8b 928
Bamber Sarah Jane W. Derby 8b 928
xxxx Holliday Elizabeth West Derby 8b 928
Randles Richard W. Derby 8b 928


.............and her in 1911:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Elizabeth Aiken Head Married Female Dressmaker 37 1874 Cumberland Workington Transcription
Lilian Aiken Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription
William Aiken Son - Male - 0 1911 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription
Robert Holliday Brother Single Male Assurance Clerk 28 1883 Lancashire Liverpool

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2015 15:49

Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919 (Ancestry)

(another for A. Holliday 1907 'Matador', same address, 191, Boaler St.)

Chris :)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2015 15:23

Same one again ??? But also in 1913:


Alexander Halliday

in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Alexander Halliday
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 2 Aug 1913
Vessel: Empress of Russia
Port of Arrival: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan

Occupation: Seaman
Destination: San Francisco

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2015 15:19

This looks like the same man in 1913.



Alexander Halliday

in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Alexander Halliday
Arrival Date: Aug 1913
Port of Arrival: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Ship Name: Canadian Pacific Railroad
Residence Country: Canada
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1886
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 4


Last permanent address: Vancouver.
Destination: Australia
Occupation: Sailor
NOK: His sister, Mrs W Aiken (?), 166 Boaler, Liverpool. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2015 14:36

If he was due to finish his apprenticeship in April 1909, then my posting looks like it could very well be your man as event date is 5 April 1909 and this was the date he is noted as being finished his service on the ship Idomeneus.
Doesn't help find him afterwards but does give you a little more info on him.

David

David Report 29 Sep 2015 11:35

Thanks Chris, he was due according to records due to finish his apprenticeship in April 1909.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2015 07:45

(another below also, New Orleans (Ancestry) Steward)

A Holliday abt 1889 23 Mar 1910 Colon (Ship Name) Abangarez


Walter Runciman info. on google, and Cargo Ship "Westmoor" 112736


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_boat_(ship) (Abangarez)


http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/2441.html

(Parismina)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

Chris :)

(did he finish his apprenticeship?...or perhaps went to America, and found work on above)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Sep 2015 21:58

http://www.albertagenealogy-research.ca/Data/Papers/1990-1994C/CalgaryDeathsPage341.html

(HOLLIDAY, Alexander Frederick 1990. Age 102)


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=holliday&GSiman=1&GScid=2130381&GRid=139858285&

(perhaps relates to Canada one)

Chris :)


(Boaler Street one perhaps)

Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
HOLLIDAY Alexander W.Derby 8b 653


(Reference to 1905)

All UK, Apprentices Indentured in Merchant Navy, 1824-1910 (Ancestry)

Catherine

Catherine Report 28 Sep 2015 21:34

Maybe relevant?

A Holliday
in the Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919

Name: A Holliday
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Place: Liverpool
Event Date: 5 Apr. 1909
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Idomeneus
Official Number: 110555
Reference Number: 387CRE/433

Address given:- 191 Boaler Street
Capacity:- AB (An able seaman (AB) is an unlicensed member of the deck department of a merchant ship.)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Sep 2015 19:28

David ................

just so you know, the helpers tend to post information as they find it, eg a census or two, as that helps us all to get our heads round the details of this man.

You've been working on him for years, we're coming to it blind.

So think of the work duplicated as being help for US

David

David Report 28 Sep 2015 19:11

Hi I have all those links except the waiter on the ship, I have also gone through the local newspaper from 1901-1912 but nothing. I also have a copy of his Father's obituary in December 1935 and there is no mention of him.