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I have a patrick mcdowell 1674 scotland married to eliz martine also katherine ferguson which one is correct thats all I know

Also who was his parents and grandparents

Any advice welcomed

birth for a child of Patrick and catherine

Patrick Mcdowall

mentioned in the record of James Mcdowall

Name Patrick Mcdowall
Gender Male
Wife Cathrin Ferguson
Son James Mcdowall

Other information in the record of James Mcdowall

from Scotland Births and Baptisms

Name James Mcdowall
Gender Male
Christening Place EDINBURGH PARISH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date 05 Jul 1697
Birthplace Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father's Name Patrick Mcdowall
Mother's Name Cathrin Ferguson

Patrik Mcdowall

Scotland Births and Baptisms

Name Patrik Mcdowall
Gender Male
Christening Date 24 Jun 1674
Christening Place EDINBURGH PARISH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Father's Name William Mcdowall
Mother's Name Grissell Bethun

Patrick Mcdowall

mentioned in the record of William Mcdowall

Name Patrick Mcdowall
Gender Male
Wife Kathrin Ferguson
Son William Mcdowall

Other information in the record of William Mcdowall

from Scotland Births and Baptisms

Name William Mcdowall
Gender Male
Christening Date 13 Oct 1708
Christening Place EDINBURGH PARISH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Father's Name Patrick Mcdowall
Mother's Name Kathrin Ferguson

William Mcdowall

mentioned in the record of William Mcdowall and Grissell Bethon

Name William Mcdowall
Spouse's Name Grissell Bethon
Event Date 11 Feb 1669
Event Place Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland

Williame Mcdowel

Scotland Births and Baptisms

Name Williame Mcdowel
Gender Male
Christening Date 08 Jul 1649
Christening Place EDINBURGH PARISH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Father's Name Alexander Mcdowel
Mother's Name Catharine Broun

(looks already to be on below 'Thread')

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1353628?d=asc&page=1

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jul 2015 11:15

It's probably not possible to tell if the Patrick who married Elizabeth Martine is "yours" or not.

You would have to have a look at the image of the marriage record, in tha hope that his father's name was mentioned - but often isn't in OPR's. (And presumably isn't in this record, or it would have shown in the transcription Malyon found.)

You can view the original on ScotlandsPeople:

20/03/1701 MCDOWALL PATRICK
ELIZABETH MARTINE
/FR1344 (FR1344) M EDINBURGH EDINBURGH CITY CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/01 0450 0093

There's no sign of a marriage to Kath Ferguson (or other spelling) in Scotland.

Scotland Marriages 1561-1910 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) Patrick
Last name Mcdowall
Marriage year 1701
Marriage date 20 Mar 1701
Marriage place Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Martine
Place Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
Spouse's father's last name Martine
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

(below from free link)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

County Midlothian
Place Edinburgh
Church name The Parish Church
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 02 Mar 1701/2
Groom forename Patrick
Groom surname MCDOWALL
Groom abode Crichan
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname MARTINE
Bride abode Burnbrae
Bride father forename Robert
Bride father surname MARTINE
Register note Groom down as younger.


County Midlothian
Place Edinburgh
Church name The Parish Church
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 15 Dec 1734
Groom forename Patrick
Groom surname MCDOWALL
Groom parish N.W.
Groom occupation Merchant
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname FERGUSSON
Bride parish S.E.
Bride father forename Archibald
Bride father surname FERGUSSON
Bride father occupation Religous Minister
Register note Brides father deceased Reverand minister at Kirkpatrick Juxta in Annandale.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

(try the 'new look' on above, below now applying!)

Chris :)

GlasgowLass Report 28 Sep 2016 17:13

ArgyllGran,
Yes it's 6 credits to view the cert but the search results are free.

(No longer 1 credit for search results plus 5 to view)

Thank you all for the replies

I am still confused


I will copy this off to read at a later date

Probably seems confusing Joyce, as you have a relating 'Thread' with info. on.

Think you need to read through it, and perhaps review your 'Tree', as to how you are linking back.

(as with your other McDowell 'Threads' which come up on google search, they all seem confusing, quite a few!)

Chris :)

(as I mentioned earlier, try the 'new look' on below. Search results are now free, but 6 credits to view)

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Malyon
I see you have Kath Ferguson I wondered when she died as Chris Ho said she never married Patrick

could not find a marriage for Patrick and Catherine there was another son born think it was william

eh?...no Joyce that was stated by a posting from your other 'Thread' below, I copied it over.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1353628?d=asc&page=1

Chris :)

(as the Patrick MCDowall/Elizabeth Fergusson Marriage came up also, thought I would add, in case it fitted anywhere!)


Edits (you also stated below on it, with a date!)

Joyce Report 31 Jul 2015 10:01

Malyon

Query
I see you have Patrick b 1674 m to Eliz Martine 1701 did he marry twice as I have him m to Kath Ferguson 1696


(and you also have below relating 'Thread', which states copied posting below)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1297443

i am trying to trace patrick mcdowell marriage and death b 1627 logan wigtown scotland

he had a son robert b 1651 married sarah shaw 1678
children
patrick b 1680 m katherine ferguson 1695 edingburgh
robert b 1682 i have no marriage or death

patrick and katherine had 3 children
james b 1697no marriage or death
john b 1707 m mary mcdowall edingburgh had a son john b1734 downpatrick ireland
william b 1708 no marriage or death

Thank You Chris Ho/ Salc/Malyon

I see I did post before sorry

But you have confirmed what I wanted to know even though the names have changed slightly you have been a great help

What sites can I trace back with my mcdowell mcdowall line

But where did you get that Marriage date of 1695 Edinburgh from Joyce, as it can't seem to be found?...

Chris :)

(I have given links to websites I used, not sure for Malyon though, perhaps would be useful to have it!)

(and I have helped before with Devon Burials McDowall (and it's variants!) from Find My Past website, as given on them)

Chris
A family relative in A.U gave me Patricks Marriage to Kathrine Ferguson 1696 Edingburgh is this the marriage you are talking about

I was taking the 1695 from info. given below, so 1696, wonder where it was found from, think perhaps best to leave it, as getting more confusing, lol. Not seeming to come up for Edinburgh for folks that have previously looked...

Chris :)

(patrick b 1680 m katherine ferguson 1695 edingburgh)

Chris Ho
I looked at Kathleens ancestry tree which patrick and kathleen ferguson are on it