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I have a birth record for a Kathleen M Taylor. She was born in Preston in 1930 as she is showing to be living with Hilda and Stanley on the 1939 register.

There is also a birth record for a Joyce K taylor born in 1930. She was born in West Derby.

If they are the same person as is being suggested why would there be two birth records?

Dorothy was born in West Derby as well.

From Ancestry......

Hilda AL Taylor in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Hilda AL Taylor
Mother's Maiden Surname: Richardson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 519

Thank you Dea :-)

Image of the birth reg does show mmn as RicharDson !

Dea x

Her birth cert would tell you her father's name to confirm (or not) if she is a sibling:

Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Taylor Hilda A L Richarson Birmingham 6d 519


Ditto the marriage cert:

Marriages Sep 1949 (>99%)
Gisbourne George Taylor Walsall 9b 2087
Taylor Hilda A L Gisbourne Walsall 9b 2087

I also have another option for a sibling - Hilda Agnes Lillian who married a George Gisbourne. I found her on someone else's family tree. Any thoughts on her?

Wow this is fascinating. I felt so lost with it all and this is helping me so much.
I'm just trying to process it all and put a tree together.

I'm a bit unsure who Joyce is or I'd she is a sibling. I can see that Kathleen looks ti be a sibling as she is mentioned on an electoral roll.

This marriage is more likely for Kathleen:

Marriages Mar 1955 (>99%)
TAYLOR Kathleen M VALENTINE Wrexham 8a 834
VALENTINE Ronald O TAYLOR Wrexham 8a 834

She was registered Kathleen M at birth.

Dea x

Sidney C Taylor in the Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955
Name: Sidney C Taylor
Year: 1950
Ward or Division/Constituency: Perry Barr
Street address: 4 Oundle Road
Residence Place: Birmingham

With......

Hilda A Taylor
Herbert M Stanworth
Dorothy I Stanworth

Sidney Charles Taylor in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: Sidney Charles Taylor
Birth Date: 28 Oct 1895
Baptism Date: 15 Jul 1907
Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Edward, Warwickshire, England
Father: William Taylor (Blacksmith) 44 Court 1 House New John Street West
Mother: Sara Ann Taylor
Reference Number: DRO 7
Archive Roll: 571
(On the same page.........George Frederick Taylor) No date of birth given for George.

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
Taylor George Frederick Birmingham 6d 151


Sidney Charles Taylor in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Sidney Charles Taylor
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 140


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1 /288 New John Street West Birmingham, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

(Res: 44 Court 1 House New John Street West Birmingham.....On the image)

William Taylor Head Married Male Blacksmith 46 1865 Birmingham
Sarah Ann Taylor Wife Married Female - 44 1867 Gloucestershire
Agnes Taylor Daughter Single Female Silver Polisher 20 1891 Birmingham
William Edwin Taylor Son Single Male Blacksmith 17 1894 Birmingham
Sidney Charles Taylor Son Single Male Cycle Trade 15 1896 Birmingham
George Frederick Taylor Son - Male School 13 1898 Birmingham

(Married 24years.......5 children born, 4 living, 1 had died)


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Court House, 13, Frankfort Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

William Taylor Head Married Male 36 1865 Bath Chair Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Sarah A Taylor Wife Married Female 32 1869 Carriage Painter Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Agnes Taylor Daughter - Female 10 1891 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
William Taylor Son - Male 7 1894 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Sydneya Taylor Daughter - Female 5 1896 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
George Taylor Son - Male 3 1898 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15 Court, Bristol Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

William Taylor Head Married Male 26 1865 Blacksmith Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Sarah A Taylor Wife Married Female 24 1867 - Gloucestershire, England
Agnes Taylor Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England


Agnes Taylor in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: Agnes Taylor
Baptism Date: 18 May 1890
Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Asaph, Warwickshire, England
Father: William Taylor (Smith) Bristol Street
Mother: Sarah Ann Taylor
Reference Number: DRO 16
Archive Roll: 598

hi zoe charles

Records of people younger than 100 and still alive, or who died after 1991 are officially closed.

if this is dorothy it's proberly why there is no record of her on the 1939 register

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) DOROTHY IRENE
Last name ROBERTSON
Gender Female
Birth day 7
Birth month 2
Birth year 1926
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1994
District BIRMINGHAM
District number 0611K
Register number K61A
Entry number 122
Date of registration mm/yy 0594

Sorry I just re read the above. Yes it looks like that could very well be her mmn and sibling. I have been going round a round this for two days!

Oh wow
So Sidney and Hilda could be her parents!
I have found there was a Dorothy I Taylor born to a Richardson in 1926 in West Derby.

I'm not sure on Kathleen though.

possible marriage for Joyce K Taylor (Kathleen on 1939 Register) in 1951 in Chippenham district

also living with Herbert is Dorothy I Stanworth and SIDNEY C TAYLOR


Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955


Name: Herbert M Stanworth

Year: 1955

Ward or Division/Constituency: Perry Barr

Street address: 4 OUNDLE ROAD

Residence Place: Birmingham



Marriages Mar 1921

Richardson Hilda A Taylor W.Bromwich 6b 1792
Taylor Sidney C Richardson W.Bromwich 6b 1792



1939 Register

Taylor Household (3 People)

4 Oundle Road , Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England


Sidney C Taylor 28 Oct 1895 Male Builder Labourer Married 83 1
Hilda Alice Taylor 10 Feb 1897 Female Jewellery Polisher Married 83 2
Kathleen Valentine (Taylor) 06 Apr 1930 Female At School Single 83 5

(2 closed records)

Thank you all for your help so far.

I have managed to piece together my grandfather's side of the family which is amazing and actually found relatives.

I cannot find a Dorothy Irene Taylor born in 1926?

I had her down as either being born in 1917 or 1931 - yes very different lol. I need to order her marriage certificate I think. I just wondered if anyone knew of them.

I really don't know anything about my grandmother at all so I don't know if she had any siblings

Her marriage certificate should give you her father's name and occuption, which should help find, or confirm any information found.

Marriages Dec 1946 (>99%)
Taylor Dorothy I Stanworth Birmingham 9c 856
Stanworth Herbert M Taylor Birmingham 9c 856

This should also give you her address at the time of marriage, and her occupation which may help find her in 1939

If this is her birth:-

Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
Taylor Dorothy I Richardson West Derby 8b 1068

then mmn was Richardson.

If correct then this looks to be a sibling:-

Births Jun 1930 (>99%)
Taylor Joyce K Richardson W.Derby 8b 1015

Do you have any idea if your grandmother had any siblings?

This birth, but a year out. Its a common name, you may have to buy marriage cert to see the info it contains

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1925
Taylor Doris I Warwick Birmingham S. 6d 148


Several possible marriages

Andy

2nd marriage

Name: William Robertson
[Willaim Robertson]
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1973
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Spouse: Dorothy I Stanworth
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 672

Andy