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Archibald Wlm Giles 1896 m Elizabeth Harvey 1919

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Potty

Potty Report 22 Nov 2016 15:08

This site has Archibald's service record. Gives wife as Mrs E Giles. 71 Sprey Street. Poplar. It also says he died in 1946 in New Zealand. (Ch Ch - possibly Christchurch?).

Discharged 30/09/1919; intended address: 59 Osborn St, Linwood, Ch Ch

Edit:

Married Elizabeth Harvey, 20/01/1919 at Bromley.

No children shown.

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 15:17

It's possible that he went back to New Zealand ??

Name Archibald William Giles
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1946
Event Place Christchurch, Christchurch City, Canterbury, New Zealand
Photograph Included N
Death Date 02 Jun 1946
Affiliate Record Identifier 153226054
Cemetery Bromley Cemetery

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Name Elizabeth Giles
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1965
Event Place Christchurch, Christchurch City, Canterbury, New Zealand
Photograph Included N
Death Date 11 Jun 1965
Affiliate Record Identifier 153226057
Cemetery Bromley Cemetery

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 15:18

Oh well , there you are from Potty's posting it looks like my burial is him.

Potty

Potty Report 22 Nov 2016 15:21

It certainly looks as if Archibald wasn't the father of the three children Rita mentions but surely she must have her and Raymond's marriage cert, which should confirm Raymond's father's name?

Potty

Potty Report 22 Nov 2016 15:22

Whoops, just noticed I didn't post the site for the NZ service record:

http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE18709547

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 15:24

Exactly what I was thinking Potty.

I was just going to ask if Raymond had his birth certificate to see who his parents were?

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 15:33

As we now know that parents were more likey to be William and Annie

I think this may be Annie in 1911

18 Nags Head Road Ponders End Middlesex, Enfield, Middlesex, England

Thomas Edward Harvey Head Married Male Gas Stoker 35 1876 West Ham Essex
Annie Harvey Wife Married Female - 36 1875 Dalston London
James William Harvey Son - Male School 10 1901 West Ham Essex
Arthur Frederick Harvey Son - Male - 8 1903 West Ham Essex
Annie Elisabeth Harvey Daughter - Female - 6 1905 Ponders End Middlesex
Albert Henry Harvey Son - Male - 5 1906 Ponders End Middlesex
Rosina Florence Harvey Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Ponders End Middlesex

Married 14yrs
Children :- 7 - 5 living and 2 died

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 15:39

Possible for William in 1911

42 Boyton Road Hornsey, Hornsey, Middlesex, England

Edward Giles Head Married Male General Labourer 49 1862 Sussex Pulborough
Ellen Giles Wife Married Female - 40 1871 Herts Potter Bar
Edward Giles Son - Male G N Railway 16 1895 Middlesex Highgate
John Giles Son - Male Errand Boy 14 1897 Middlesex Holloway
George Giles Son - Male School Errand Boy 13 1898 Middlesex Hornsey
Hector Giles Son - Male School 11 1900 Middlesex Hornsey
William Giles Son - Male School 5 1906 Middlesex Hornsey
Frank Giles Son - Male - 3 1908 Middlesex Hornsey

Married 18yrs.
Children:- 8 - 6 children living and 2 died

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 15:45

Have sent Rita a pm asking for her come back and answer a couple of questions.

Rita

Rita Report 22 Nov 2016 15:58

Oh my goodness - Thankyou so much everyone for your help and input. Will check through everything. Your comments have explained a lot....at the begining I was sure fathers name was William Ernest which is what I was searching - however I then came across an Archibald William who had married an Elizabeth Harvey so jumped to the wrong conclusion and went right of course - as far at New Zealand it would seem !! Sadly I have no certificates to verify names of parents etc and my own has no mention of parents (short form). So yes the parents were William and Annie which had been my first search. Back on track now - so thanks again to you all x

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 16:08

Possible death for William

Name: William E Giles
Birth Date: abt 1906
Date of Registration: Mar 1968
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Haringey
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 949
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...................and if, as you say mother died in 1960, then this could be a possible death for Annie:-

Deaths Mar 1960 (>99%)
GILES Annie E 55 Wood Green 5f 551
The district Wood Green is in the county of Middlesex

(makes date of birth abt. 1905)

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 16:14

Rita,
for you to go back with any certainty you may be obliged to buy a copy of the marriage certificate of William and Annie to see who their father's name were.
The certificate will also give an address where they were living at the time of marriage, which may be their home address, and their father's occupations which should help confirm, or not if my 1911 entries are the correct ones.

Without proof you may go off on another wild goose chase so well worth the investment.