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James Keyes (Keys) born Belfast c1888

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Richard

Richard Report 30 Dec 2017 12:27

can someone please have a look to see if there are any more details about where James served. Thanks

Silver War Badge Roll Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) James
Last name Keyes
Service number 17858
Rank Corporal
Badge number 339119
Enlistment date 23-Jan-1915
Discharge date 08-Mar-1918
Regiment/unit R. Irish Fus.
Cause of discharge Sickness Para (b)
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 26-Mar-1918
Age on discharge 29

http://www.researchingww1.co.uk/silver-war-badge

(above with more info. on b)


(if anything more on Ancestry Military)

Richard

Richard Report 30 Dec 2017 07:40

Thank you so much Tiggit. You're persistent I have to say. My friend is cock-a-hoop with the marriage certificate.

Kayak

Kayak Report 29 Dec 2017 12:53

Possible death of Maggie/Margaret Kay:

Margaret Kay, aged 54, from 10 Linden Street, died 24th July 1911, at 51 Lisburn Road, widow of George Kay, a Carpenter, son James H Kay in attendance

Link to death reg: https://tinyurl.com/y8twpma9

Richard

Richard Report 28 Dec 2017 16:41

Looks good to me too. Thanks

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Dec 2017 15:20

Looks good Tiggit- George a carpenter too :)

Kayak

Kayak Report 28 Dec 2017 15:19

Maybe a possibility???

George Kay & Maggie Daly 30th Aug 1886 St Lukes Parish Lower Falls

https://tinyurl.com/yclebq5e

Richard

Richard Report 28 Dec 2017 12:50

I am doing this research for a friend and he has only just sent me the baptismal certificate of James Henry Keys. He was 18 months old when he was baptised at St Paul's Catholic Church Falls road Belfast on 23.06.1889.

This gives him a DOB in late 1887-early 1888. His father is given as George Keys and his mother Margaret Daly.

Given that the baptism was 18 months after his birth could have been anywhere in Ireland.

Can anyone see a marriage for George Keys and Margaret Daly and give me any info on their family.

Apologies to those above who worked on insufficient information.

Maybe I should have started a new thread.

Thanks in anticipation, Richard

Kayak

Kayak Report 10 Dec 2017 15:29

Link to birth reg for Jane Maguire (second one down)

https://tinyurl.com/y8ys6fve


Patrick Maguire married Mary Smith in 1882

Link to marriage certificate (bottom image)

https://tinyurl.com/y7t5ggl9

children for Patrick and Mary Maguire (nee Smith)

Patrick born 1883 https://tinyurl.com/ydg2uvlm

Catherine 1885 https://tinyurl.com/y7rs3vbs

Mary 1886 https://tinyurl.com/y8z35xgl

Anne 1888 https://tinyurl.com/y77pduxl

John 1891 https://tinyurl.com/yazuw8lg

Elizabeth 1893 https://tinyurl.com/y8ys6fve (TWIN SISTER OF JANE)

Margaret 1895 https://tinyurl.com/ya8dr6x7

Joseph 1898 https://tinyurl.com/ydzdtv5q

Bridget 1900 https://tinyurl.com/yatlcwhe

TWINS Teresa and Ellen 1901 https://tinyurl.com/y83g7lpn (born 1 day apart)

Rose 1904 https://tinyurl.com/yatqy5lb


1901 census:

Residents of a house 11 in Church Lane (Kells, Meath)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Maguire Pat 48 Male Father Catholic Kells, Co Meath Coach Maker Can read and write English Married -
Maguire Mary 34 Female Wife Catholic Kells, Co Meath - Can read English Married -
Maguire Kate 16 Female Daughter Catholic Kells, Co Meath Servant Read write English Not Married -
Maguire Ann 12 Female Daughter Catholic Kells, Co Meath At Home Read write English Not Married -
Maguire Jane 7 Female Daughter Catholic Kells, Co Meath School Read English Not Married -
Maguire Catherine 76 Female Mother Catholic Kells, Co Meath At Home Cannot r w English Widow -
Maguire John 9 Male Son Catholic Kells, Co Meath At School Read write English Not Married -
Maguire Joe 2 Male Son Catholic Kells, Co Meath At Home Cannot r w English Not Married

1911 census:

Residents of a house 2 in Church Lane (Kells Urban, Meath)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Maguire Patrick 58 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Meath Coach Smith Read and write - Married - 29yrs children 13 still alive 9
Maguire Mary 48 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Meath - Read - Married - 29 13 9
Maguire Pat 28 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Meath Tailor Read write - Single Deaf and Dumb - - -
Maguire John 19 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Meath General Labourer Read - Single - - - -
Maguire Loe 13 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Meath At School Read write - Single - - - -
Maguire Ellen 10 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Meath At School Read write - Single - - -


Death 1st Feb 1916
Mary Maguire aged 51 Married wife of a Coach Smith Church Lane Kells

Link to death reg: https://tinyurl.com/ybx45p5l



Death 5th June 1941
Patrick Maguire aged 82 Widower Occ: Coachbuilder Church Lane Kells

Link to death reg: https://tinyurl.com/ybs3uloz


Possible Smith family line:

Possible baptism for Mary Smith:
23rd dec 1863 Kells Meath
Mary Smyth
Parents John and Mary Smyth (nee Sheridan)
Found here: https://registers.nli.ie/

other birth registrations for children of this couple:

Jane1866 https://tinyurl.com/yallrmgz

Bernard 1868 https://tinyurl.com/y7c27zyo

Bridget 1870 https://tinyurl.com/y9zg7hy3

Jane 1875 https://tinyurl.com/y8ae6vt5

Ellen 1879 https://tinyurl.com/yb2zaup7


Kayak

Kayak Report 10 Dec 2017 14:20

Hi Richard,

Does this link to the marriage certificate work for you? (3rd image down)

https://tinyurl.com/y8jfclry



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Dec 2017 12:08

A tree on Ancestry says George was born 1840, and died 13/11 /1893 in Belfast.

It lists these as his children with Jane McGibbon:

William James Keys
1866–1874

Mary Keys
1869–1875

Jane Keys
1872–1880

George Keys
1874–

William James Keys
1876–1906

Mary Eliza Keys
1878–1883

Agnes Keys
1880–

Margaret Keys
1882–1885

Elizabeth Keys
1885–1888

All born in Belfast

Richard

Richard Report 10 Dec 2017 11:32

George Keys and Jane Mcgibbon look a really good fit. What other children did they have. Marriage?

The record of military service is definitely him.

Thanks so much.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Dec 2017 09:48

The only George Keys I see that fits in Belfast died in 1893 age 50. He was a cabinet maker, married to Jane McGibbon.

Jane died in 1890 age 48. The last child I can see for George and Jane was Elizabeth, born 1886. I don't see a son James for them.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Dec 2017 09:36

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3233956

(if above James Keyes)

Chris :)

Silver War Badge Roll Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) James
Last name Keyes
Service number 17858
Rank Corporal
Badge number 339119
Enlistment date 23-Jan-1915
Discharge date 08-Mar-1918
Regiment/unit R. Irish Fus.
Cause of discharge Sickness Para (b)
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 26-Mar-1918
Age on discharge 29

http://www.researchingww1.co.uk/silver-war-badge

(above with more info. on b)


(if anything more on Ancestry Military)


http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=20146.0

(if George on above)

("he died in 1893 at his daughters Sarah Morrow home in Trench St.")


Ireland Marriages 1845-1958 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) William
Last nameMorrow
Registration year1883
Registration quarter Oct - Dec 1883
Registration district Belfast
Volume 1
Page 358
William Morrow married one of these people
Margaret Jane Mathers, Sarah Keys


1901
Residents of a house 59 in Matilda Street (St. George's Ward Belfast, Antrim)
Keys Agnes 20 Female Boarder Prebysterian Belfast Servant Cannot read Irish Not Married -
Morrow John 25 Male Brother Prebysterian Belfast General Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Morrow William 36 Male Head of Family Prebysterian Belfast Labourer Read and rite Irish Married -
Morrow Agnes 56 Female Visitor Prebysterian Belfast House Keeper Cannot read Irish Widow -
Telford Robert 4 Male Visitor Prebysterian Belfast Scholar Cannot read Irish Not Married -
Morrow Sarah 37 Female Wife Prebysterian Belfast Weaver Read and write Irish Married


1911
Residents of a house 19 in Matilda Street (St. George's, Antrim)
Family Presbyterian Belfast Dock Labourer Read and write Irish Married - 27 - -
Morrow Sarah 40 Female Wife Presbyterian Belfast P L Weaver Read and write Irish Married - 27 - -
Keys Agnes 30 Female Step Sister Presbyterian Belfast P L Weaver Read and write Irish Single - - - -
Bingham Jessie 49 Female Boarder Presbyterian Belfast P L Weaver Read and write Irish Widow - 28 1 1
Hartley Maggie Ann 49 Female Boarder Presbyterian Belfast P L Weaver Read and write Irish Widow - 25

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/


http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/index.htm

(BELFAST STREET DIRECTORIES)

1890
KEEGAN STREET
21. Keys, George, cabinet maker

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Dec 2017 08:40

Richard, what is the date of the baptism? Does it list his parents?

Richard

Richard Report 10 Dec 2017 07:57

James died in Liverpool and was taken back to Ireland for burial. The Jane who died in in 1948 is buried in the same plot as her husband James in Kells.

There is a baptismal certificate for James from St Pauls RC church on the Falls Road Belfast so I think this is his likely birthplace.

Thanks so much to everybody for the information.

safc

safc Report 9 Dec 2017 21:50

????

Baptism: 8 Jun 1887 St Barnabas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William James Kees - [Child] of George Kees & Elizabeth
Born: 20 Mar 1887
Abode: 3 Court 1 House Brassey St.
Occupation: Shipwright
Baptised by: Richard Postance
Register: Baptisms 1841 - 1892, Page 356, Entry 3460
Source: LDS Film 2147909



Shipwright - definition of shipwright by The Free Dictionary
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/shipwright
Noun. 1. shipwright - a carpenter who helps build and launch wooden vessels. ship builder, shipbuilder. wright - someone who makes or repairs something (usually used in combination)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Dec 2017 21:32

Are you sure the James who died in Liverpool is the same one who married in Kells?

I ask because of this:

[KEYES] James
(St John’s Cemetery Kells County Meath Ireland)
[KEYES] Jane née Maguire
(St John’s Cemetery Kells County Meath Ireland)


EDIT:
Though I suppose he could have died in Liverpool, then been buried in Kells.

https://tinyurl.com/yc2l3bg6

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Dec 2017 21:18

What happened to Jane?
Could this be her death??


SR District/Reg Area - Kells
Death of JANE KEYS in 1948
Name JANE KEYS
Year of Death 1948
Group Registration ID 2452930
SR District/Reg Area Kells
Deceased Age at Death 55


Informant: M McGregor, daughter


EDIT:
However, I don't see the birth of an M Key(e)s, so maybe not.

James and Jane did have three sons, all born in Kells.

Joseph V, 1929
George P ,1931
John E, 1934

safc

safc Report 9 Dec 2017 21:01

2 james keys born scotland



Surname Forename Gender Year Ref RD Name Image View
KEYS

JAMES MICHAEL

M

1889

644/6 111

St Rollox

View image (6 credits)
KEYS

JAMES

M

1893

564/2 419

Greenock West

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Dec 2017 21:00

Well the GRO record does say 63

KEYES, JAMES 63
GRO Reference: 1954 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL NORTH Volume 10D Page 124

And his age at marriage in1916 equates to a birth c1890