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Frank Maidment m Emily Edgell

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Glyn

Glyn Report 16 Jan 2018 23:10

I know that Frank came from Mere. He married a lady called Violet and lived in Romford in Essex. They had some children, but not sure how many.
Somehow after Violet died around 1923 he ended up in Southampton. Emily had been widowed in 1922 ( married name Ralls) and Frank married Emily in about 1926
I would love someone to fill some of the gaps in that outline.
There were quite a few children from both earlier marriages I think, both Maidment and Ralls but whether in Romford or Southampton I don’t know.

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jan 2018 23:15

From the free to use site - https://www.freebmd.org.uk

Probable marriage a they lived in Essex

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
Foster Violet H Maidment W. Ham 4a 37 <<<<<<<<<<<
Maidment Frank Foster W.Ham 4a 37 <<<<<<<<<
Pratt Ethel Wiggins W.Ham 4a 37
Wiggins William J Pratt W. Ham 4a 37

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jan 2018 23:17

If correct marriage - Looks like twins in 1916 - again from freebmd

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Maidment Reginald F Foster W. Ham 4a 313
Maidment Violet M Foster W. Ham 4a 313

Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Maidment Julian E Foster Romford 4a 1024

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jan 2018 23:24

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

Marriages Jun 1929 (>99%)
Ferryman Mary E Garrett Southampton 2c 22
Garrett Lewis A Ferryman Southampton 2c 22
Maidment Frank Ralls Southampton 2c 22 <<<<<<<
Ralls Emily F Maidment Southampton 2c 22 <<<<<<<<

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jan 2018 23:27

???
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
Edgell Emily Fluellen Southampton 2c 27 <<<<<<<<<
Jeacock Henry Robinson Southampton 2c 27
Moody Constance Kate Southampton 2c 27
Ralls Henry John Southampton 2c 27 <<<<<<<<


safc

safc Report 16 Jan 2018 23:30


Julian E Maidment on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Maidment Household (4 People) 26 Twyford Avenue , Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Julian E Maidment 27 Feb 1922 Male Clerk (Junior) Single 243 4
Emily D Maidment 12 Apr 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 243 1
Eric C Ralls 08 Mar 1920 Male Apprentice Ships Draughtsman Single 243 2

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jan 2018 23:31

Free to use, but need to register. will give mmn from start of registration Q3 1837 up to 1917
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
RALLS, ERNEST HENRY EDGELL Order
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 66

RALLS, JOHN WILLIAM EDGELL Order
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 67

RALLS, FREDERICK HERBERT EDGELL Order
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 65

RALLS, DOROTHY GLADYS EDGELL Order
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 70

RALLS, ALBERT FLUELLEN EDGELL Order
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 22 Order

RALLS, NELLIE BEATRICE EDGELL Order
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 69

RALLS, WINIFRED EMILY EDGELL Order
GRO Reference: 1915 J Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 19

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From freebmd - gives mmn after Q3 1911

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Ralls Kathleen M Edgell Southampton 2c 76

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Ralls Eric L Edgell Southampton 2c 19

Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Ralls Edwina M Edgell Southampton 2c 43

You can use freebmd to look for marriages of the children from both these marriages

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jan 2018 23:33

Name: ....................................... Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
EDGELL, EMILY FLUELLEN........... FLUELLEN Order
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 27

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jan 2018 23:37


Name: ..................................Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
MAIDMENT, FRANK ............BUTT Order
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in MERE Volume 05A Page 233

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Jan 2018 23:41

only Violet H birth coming up 1860-1900

????
FOSTER, VIOLET HESTER ............ WHITELOCK Order
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 499

EDIT - will leave, but see post below

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Jan 2018 00:01

Possible death of Violet - but this shows initial as E not H as per marriage and a birth year of c 1891

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
MAIDMENT, VIOLET EMMA 32 Order
GRO Reference: 1923 J Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 382 Order

Which could therefore be this birth - Orsett is in Essex

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
FOSTER, VIOLET EMMA HORNER Order
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in ORSETT Volume 04A Page 449

Glyn

Glyn Report 17 Jan 2018 08:06

That’s really helpful. Thank you. I will check out GRO website too.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Jan 2018 16:56

Is that Frank below?...

(with Butt couple next door)

Chris :)

1939 Register (Find My Past)

49a Ridley Road , Bournemouth C.B., Hampshire
Frank Maidment 18 Dec 1879 Male Master Butcher Married


Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
Butt Horace H Chant Christchurch 2b 1464
Chant Agnes L Butt Christchurch 2b 1464


(just wondered as a School Record for below Birth, his Father was John. Born 11/9/78)

MAIDMENT, FRANK (LAURENCE)
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in OF MERE Volume 05A Page 229


Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------
LAWRENCE Jemima Mere 5a 481
MAIDMENT John Mere 5a 481


(other Parents)

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------
Butt Emily Jane Mere 5a 303
MAIDMENT William Mere 5a 303

Glyn

Glyn Report 17 Jan 2018 18:22

Thank you for all that information :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Jan 2018 18:40

(was trying to determine which Frank, wasn't sue if you knew)

Chris :)

Glyn

Glyn Report 2 Feb 2018 08:44

Does anyone have connections to Edwina M Ralls or any information about Emily Edgell? For some reason there was a family feud and Edwina moved away from Southampton? It could be due to the war or something else. Unfortunately the human story isn’t available always from records but I’m interested in finding out what happened if that’s possible from such a long time ago

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Feb 2018 13:50

EDWINA M
Last name RALLS
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1945
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EDWINA M RALLS married
Cyril Chapman
Spouse's last name Chapman
District Southampton
District number -
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2C
Volume as transcribed 2C
Page number 111
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England


There's a couple of possible births from this marriage in Southampton

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Feb 2018 14:00

?????

First name(s) EDWINA MARGARET
Last name CHAPMAN
Gender Female
Birth day 18
Birth month 7
Birth year 1922
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1993
District Mendip
District number 7211
Register number 16D
Entry number 129
Date of registration mm/yy 1193
County Somerset
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Glyn

Glyn Report 3 Mar 2018 20:44

Ive finally looked up all the references as well as the census forms and the Frank Maidment born in Mere is not the right person.
I think he is born in 1887 in Bournemouth because on his marriage to Violet his father is cited as George Maidment..
I think he died in Southampton in 1960.
Does anyone think that's correct?
I also think the children from the first marriage are
Violet and Reginald (born 1916)
Agnes born 1917
Julian born in 1922
there seems to be another twin??? of Julian called Francis
Madeline born 1923, same year that Violet died.

Frank marries Emily Ralls in 1929 so I also wondered what happened to Frank's children, because Julian seems to be living in Southampton in 1939. Emily had 10 children so if Frank moved in with 6 children that's quite a crowd.

Any ideas anyone? your help would greatly be appreciated

Additionally who is Emily Maidment on the 1939 register mentioned above? it cant be Frank's wife as the DOB is wrong

Nyx

Nyx Report 3 Mar 2018 21:20

This is the Bournemouth one, does Frank's & father's occupation tie in with marriage cert?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tesse Cottage, 8, Bournemouth, Christchurch, Hampshire & Dorset, England

George Maidment Head Married Male 50 1851 Handley, Dorset, England Cabman Transcription
Julia Maidment Wife Married Female 50 1851 Moordown, Hampshire, England -
Albert Maidment Son Single Male 18 1883 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Grocers Porter
Mark Maidment Son Single Male 16 1885 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Butcher
Frank Maidment Son Single Male 15 1886 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Butcher
Phillis Maidment Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England Dressmaker (Apprentice)
Elsie Maidment Daughter Single Female 11 1890 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England - Transcription
Esther Maidment Daughter Single Female 8 1893 Bournemouth, Hampshire, England -