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Thank you so much Nyx and all you are incredibly helpful I am truly grateful, I most definitely want to find out more,...all so interesting I will request to view trees following your advice Nyx Thanks :-)

yes Shelly , go to "Search" at top of the page, click, then click "search all trees" for Frederick Burford

Date of Birth: 1877



The tree owner's first name is Robert

Shelly once you have got this all sorted you can come back and perhaps go a bit further back if you want to, so I will leave this here for when you do

The marriage of Charles (born 1853) parents

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)

Burford Charles Islington 1b 292
Lambert Catherine Ann Islington 1b 292

Catherine Ann was a widow by 1861 back with her parents

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9, Halton Street, Saint Marys Islington, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

Alexander Lambert Head Married Male 68 1793 Brewers Servant St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Catherine Lambert Wife Married Female 63 1798 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Catherine A Burford Daughter Widow Female 30 1831 Milliner St Pancras, Middlesex, England <<<<
Charles D Lambert Son Unmarried Male 22 1839 Omnibus Conductor St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Henry Bunford ( Burford) Grandson Unmarried Male 5 1856 Scholar

Nyx, please could tell me whos tree it is? or how I do it myself? do I search trees by putting in a particular name Frederick Burford and year of birth?

I think it is the correct line Shelly, just that the middle name seems to be off, but then that is not unusual as I have it in my own tree where there were several middle names which the person used.

I should contact that tree owner, and see what info he has and if he has worked forward to Albert :-)

Nyx what does that mean? sorry I get very confused...not the correct line? or something odd going on?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, James Place, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England

Charles Burford Head Married Male 46 1855 Hackney, Middlesex, England Sawyer
Elizabeth Burford Wife Married Female 50 1851 St Pancras, Middlesex, England -
Frederick Burford Son Single Male 23 1878 Hackney, Middlesex, England Labourer Saw Mills
Herbert Burford Son Single Male 20 1881 Hackney, Middlesex, England Labourer Saw Mills
Robert Burford Son Single Male 18 1883 Hackney, Middlesex, England Waiter Restaurant
Ernest Burford Son Single Male 15 1886 Hackney, Middlesex, England Paper Hangers Asst
Ethel Burford Daughter Single Female 8 1893 Hackney, Middlesex, England -
George Withers Boarder Single Male 40 1861 Hackney, Middlesex, England Brush Hand Finisher

Odd... just noticed something lol.

But the person who has Mary Johns and Fred' Burford in their tree also has Charles as born 1853 Middlesex, this one??

BURFORD, CHARLES LAMBERT Order
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in WEST LONDON Volume 01C Page 52

Oh WOW!! this is wonderful I am intrigued, who would Charles Robert Burford be to my father terry? Erika
you are all so very good at this.

Looking at the image of the 1899 marriage, the father's name is definitely recorded as Charles Robert Burford - occupation Sawyer.

Reposting so it's top of page for Ivy's family

Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%)
Gigg May L Hill Islington 1b 455 Scan available - click to view
Hill Henry S Gigg Islington 1b 455

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Hill Ivy M Gigg Islington 1b 528

EDITED sorry didn't C & P properly

Hill Household (9 People)
Hillside West Cliff Drive , Herne Bay U.D., Kent, England

Ivy M Borford (Hill) 29 Jan 1917 Female Garment Machinist Single 360 3 <<<<<<<<<
Henry S Hill 22 Jun 1893 Male House Decorator Employed Married 360 1
May L Hill 04 Aug 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 360 2

William A Clark 03 Feb 1907 Male Cabinet Maker Married 360 5
Amelia E Clark 05 Jun 1910 Female Hoffman Presser Married 360 6
Edith Pack 26 Aug 1897 Female Mantle Machinist Married 360 7
Arthur D Pack 18 Jun 1931 Male At School Single 360 8
Albert E Burford 22 Mar 1917 Male Paint Sprayer Single 360 4

Shelly
Albert E is son of Frederick J Burford and Mary Johns, so yes Frederick is Terry's grandfather :-)

I am so excited, cousins ? could be? I wonder, Thanks Derek x

Derek, the age for Ivy is on the 1939 reg posted earlier, with her family.

I am not sure if Frederick Burford is correct as I know nothing of the family apart from my dad Terry Burford and his mother Ivy and husband Albert, who would Frederick be? my father's grandfather>? excuse my ignorance, I will see if I can view the tree x

I have a whisper of a chance with Ivy M Hill.......possible Birth registration OND 1926 mother's maiden name COUSINS???........I warn you there are other possibilities..

Shelly if that Frederick Burford born 1877 is the right one, he is on someone's tree on here, search trees for

Frederick Burford

Date of Birth: 1877

Place of Birth: Hackney, London, England

Same person has Mary Johns born 1879

Wonderful Derek x

Yes that is correct, I know lots about my mother's side of the family Stevens and Orourkes as I have seen trees,but I would so like to find out about my father's side (his mother and fathers) I know nothing of any of them really,it would be wonderful to finally find out something of them or even find a family member with a tree that they would allow me to see. Thank you all so very much for your help I am thrilled with the information you have given me in such a short time, I don't know how you do it I haven't been able to find anything really on my own

eyup!!!!............IVY M HILL..married ALBERT E BURFORD OND (last quarter) 1939..Blean District Kent..................................Derek