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EDWIN HOLLOWAY, 1847-

I’ve had quite good success tracing back the Holloway side of my family. I get to GEORGE HOLLOWAY 1816-1896 who married Elizabeth Sainsbury 1817-1884. They had 3 children, John 1841-1922, Martha 1844-1910 and Edwin b 1847.

I’ve traced Johns family to date, and also traced Martha. However, Edwin disappears without trace as far as I can see.

He’s on the 1861 census living in Sladbrook, Bratton, Westbury with the family. He’s an agricultural Labourer.

I wondered if he joined the army, but can’t find any records of it, or if he died no death record.

So can anyone help to find out what happened to him?
Thanks.
Glyn

Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1861
Event Place:
Westbury, Wiltshire, England
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Bratton
Registration District:
Westbury
Residence Note:
Sladbrook
Gender:
Male
Age:
14
Occupation:
Agricultural Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Birth Year (Estimated):
1847
Birthplace:
Bratton, Wiltshire
Page Number:
7
Registration Number:
RG09
Piece/Folio:
1301 / 16
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
George Holloway
Head
Male
44
Bratton, Wiltshire
Elizabeth Holloway
Wife
Female
44
Bratton, Wiltshire
John Holloway
Son
Male
20
Bratton, Wiltshire
Martha Holloway
Daughter
Female
17
Bratton, Wiltshire
Edwin Holloway
Son
Male
14
Bratton, Wiltshire

Edwin Hollway
Maryland, Baltimore Passenger Lists, 1820-1948
Name:
Edwin Hollway
Event Type:
Immigration
Event Date:
1872
Event Place:
Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland, United States
Gender:
Male
Age:
25
Birth Year (Estimated):
1847
Birthplace:
England
Ship Name:
Peruvian

That looks a possibility. Thanks. I thought maybe he had joined the army as an Edwin Holloway mentioned in Army lists. It’s hard to know if it’s the same person unless they say he came from Wiltshire England. The surname is not uncommon. I’m not sure how I can verify if it’s him. Maybe try to see what happened to him when he landed. Certainly he disappears from family history this side of the Pond

I have found Edwins sometimes change to Edward or Edmund in records.

If you find any of these alternatives, which can't be accounted for, they just might be your man.

Is that the Sister below?...

Chris :)

Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1843

HOLLOWAY Martha A SAINSBURY Edington History Centre EDTON/2/226

(also)

Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1840

HOLLOWAY John SAINSBURY Westbury History Centre WEST/2/330

http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Marriages Sep 1840 (>99%)
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HOLDOWAY George Westbury 8 589
Sainsbury Elizabeth Westbury 8 589

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/westbury.html


Births Dec 1843 (>99%)
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Holloway Martha Matilda Westbury 8 438

Looking at below image, says 11m for Edwin...

Chris :)

1851 (Find My Past)
George Hollaway Head Married Male 29 1822 Ag Lab Bratton, Wiltshire, England
Elizabeth Hollaway Wife Married Female 28 1823 Ag Lab's Wife Bratton, Wiltshire, England
John Hollaway Son - Male 9 1842 Ag Lab Bratton, Wiltshire, England
Martha Hollaway Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Bratton, Wiltshire, England
Ellen Hollaway Daughter - Female 3 1848 Scholar Bratton, Wiltshire, England
Edwin Hollaway Son - Male - - - Bratton, Wiltshire, England
Jeremiah Drewett Head W Male 54 1797 Carpenter Journeyman Bratton, Wiltshire, England
Bratton, Westbury, Wiltshire & Somerset,


(there is below, but not sure, not right District, something not adding up!)

Birth
HOLLOWAY, EMILY ANN (SAINSBURY)
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in OF DEVIZES IN THE COUNTY OF WILTS Volume 08 Page 340


https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

(you can check Births for Mother Maiden Name on above)


Edits (below from google search, 1841)

http://www.pope-genealogy.me.uk/41188.html


Book 3 Folio 44 Page 21

Indigo,1,George Holloway,20,,Labourer,WIL,Copied into Westbury ED12
Elizabeth Holloway,,20,,WIL,
John Holloway,1,,,WIL,
Joseph Sainsbury,11,,,WIL,


All Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916 (Ancestry)

Edwin Holloway
11 Jun 1848 Bratton
George (occ. Labourer)
Elizabeth


Ellen Holloway
8 Mar 1850 Bratton
George (occ. Labourer)
Elizabeth


Martha Matilda Holloway
15 Oct 1843 Bratton (occ. Labourer)
George
Elizabeth

(no Birthdates given on images, as is sometimes the case)


Birth
HOLLOWAY, ANN (SAINSBURY)
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in WESTBURY AND WHORWELLSDOWN Volume 08 Page 447

(if above)


Deaths Sep 1852 (>99%)
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Holloway Ellen Westbury 5a 88

(a Burial for above FMP (10th August) age 3, Abode, Bratton)

Hi Chris some of that is correct. I haven’t seen the 1851 census only 1841 and 1861 so didn’t know about Ellen!!
They lived in Bratton near Westbury, not the Devizes branch
Martha Matilda 1844-1910 is his sister. Edwin b 1847. Father George Holloway 1816-1896 and mother Elizabeth Sainsbury 1817-1884
Not the same as Martha A Sainsbury.
Does that help to clarify?
Glyn

Hi Chris some of that is correct. I haven’t seen the 1851 census only 1841 and 1861 so didn’t know about Ellen!!
They lived in Bratton near Westbury, not the Devizes branch
Martha Matilda 1844-1910 is his sister. Edwin b 1847. Father George Holloway 1816-1896 and mother Elizabeth Sainsbury 1817-1884
Not the same as Martha A Sainsbury.
Does that help to clarify?
Glyn

Did wonder if the A was perhaps a mistake on below index!, no further on Edwin though.

http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/

Chris :)

Births Dec 1843 (>99%)
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Holloway Martha Matilda Westbury 8 438


Edits (checking that passenger Edwin 1872 above, on below, also George Holloway (31) both Labourers. English)

Baltimore, Passenger Lists, 1820-1964 (Ancestry)


(no idea on below)

18 September 1869 - Wiltshire Times and Trowbridge Advertiser - Trowbridge

Drunk and Disorderlv - Two young men, named Nimrod Hunt and Edwin Holloway, were charged by Inspector Maggs with being drunk and disorderly in the streets of Bradford. Each fined five shillings.


(Wine Street, Bradford, Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, address for Nimrod Hunt)

is this another son


HOLLOWAY, HENRY
SAINSBURY

GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in WESTBURY AND WHORWELLSDOWN Volume 08 Page 676

I don’t see the name Sainsbury on any of the children. It is the mothers maiden name and they are in Bratton near Westbury but there are a few large families if Holloway’s in the area so I haven’t seen Henry on the census records as being in this family.

I have to go out shortly, but have you traced this Edward:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brickyard, Westbury upon Trym, Barton Regis, Gloucestershire, England

Edward Holloway Head Married Male 33 1848 Bratton, Wiltshire, England Farm Laborer
Mary Ann Holloway Wife Married Female 37 1844 Bradford, Wiltshire, England -
John Holloway Son Single Male 10 1871 Bradford, Wiltshire, Scholar
Edward Holloway Son Single Male 8 1873 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Scholar
Walter Holloway Son Single Male 6 1875 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Scholar
Henry Holloway Son Single Male 4 1877 Gloucestershire, England Scholar
Francis Holloway Son Single Male 2 1879 Gloucestershire, England Scholar
Clara Holloway Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Gloucestershire,

Well AustinQ I think you may have found him because the name Barton Regis rang a bell. His nephew, my great grandfather met his wife in Barton Regis. I wondered why he went there and found it was for work, but didn’t know why that area. Edwin’s brother John was my g grandfathers father so that may be the connection that took George ( g grandfather) to Barton Regis which is now part of Bristol not Glos.
I’ll keep investigating Edward and see what else I can find.
Thank you
Glyn

1891 They are at 3,Brickyard now with son George Hollway born 1886 mum nee Huntley.

Maryb.

Thanks??

Adds below...

Chris :)

Birth
HOLLOWAY, WALTER (HUNTLEY)
GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in CLIFTON Volume 06A Page 128


Birth
HOLLOWAY, CLARA (HUNTLEY)
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in BARTON REGIS Volume 06A Page 185

Birth
HOLLOWAY, FRANCIS (HUNTLEY)
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in BARTON REGIS Volume 06A Page 188


(if anything in below?, but looking complicated!)

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Edney Edward Bristol 6a 167
Huntley Mary Ann Bristol 6a 167


Birth
HOLLOWAY, JOHN (ROGERS)
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in WESTBURY AND WHORWELLSDOWN Volume 05A Page 141

1911 24 Exmoor street Bristol
john Holloway 1870 westbury a sawyer married 12 years no children
Ellen 1874


Marriage 11/8/1898 Clifton Ellen Sly dad John Sly.
John Holloway dad Edward.

Edward Holloway 1847-1907 Bristol V6a P132
Mary Ann Holloway 1845-July 1901 Bristol.


Problem William Walter Holloway 1874 mum nee rogers born Westbury

Parents of above and John 1870 looks like these
John Holloway 1841 dad George married Ann Rodgers/Rogers 1864 her parents Thomas and Ann Rogers.

Edward Edney married Martha Ann Ford
Emily L Edney 1870 mum nee Ford
Edward Edney 1873 mum nee ford .
so who did Mary Ann Huntley marry in 1865??

Looks like she could have married George Barber and they had twins George William and Sarah Ann Barber mum nee Huntley 1871 both died.

Maryb.

(things not getting any easier then, lol, did see Edward with Martha on 1871, thought a bit odd, did check earlier that 1865 Marriage on FMP for Mary Huntley, just says Edney!)

Chris :)

1901 (Find My Past) (Reference, before 1907 Death)
Edward Holloway Head Married Male 54 1847 Westbury, Wiltshire, England Gardener's Labourer
Mary Holloway Wife Married Female 57 1844 Westbury, Wiltshire, England -
Harry Holloway Son Single Male 24 1877 Stoke Bishop, Gloucestershire, England General Haulier
George Holloway Son Single Male 14 1887 Horfield, Gloucestershire, England General Errand Boy
3, Prospect Place, Bristol, Gloucestershire


(so Edward needed 1871)...


(in case her below, if it helped lead to Edward/Edwin)

1851 (Find My Past)
William Huntly Head Married Male 40 1811 Masons Bradford, Wiltshire, England
Maria Huntly Wife Married Female 38 1813 Wool Burler Bradford, Wiltshire, England
Mary Huntly Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 - Bradford, Wiltshire, England
Morgans Hill, Bradford, Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire
(other siblings also)


1861 (Find My Past)
William Huntly Head Married Male 53 1808 Labourer Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England
Maria Huntly Wife Married Female 49 1812 Cloth Worker Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England
Thomas Huntly Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Labourer Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England
John Huntly Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 Scholar Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England
Edward Gibbons Lodger Married Male 80 1781 - Bradford Leigh, Wiltshire, England
Priscilla Bolton Lodger Married Female 34 1827 Cloth Worker Devon, England
John Ross Lodger Unmarried Male 34 1827 Labourer Winsley
Noahs Ark, Wine Street, Bradford, Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire


1871 (Find My Past)
William Hunley Head - Male 64 (Widower) 1807 - Wiltshire, England
John Hunley Son - Male 18 1853 - Wiltshire, England
New Town (Noahs Ark), Bradford, Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire


Deaths Mar 1871 (>99%)
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HUNTLEY Maria 57 Bradford, W. 5a 98


Deaths Dec 1874 (>99%)
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HUNTLEY William 68 Bradford, W. 5a 80


Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1843

HUNTLEY Mary A OTTERIDGE Bradford on Avon South Eastern History

(FMP Marriage (no image) 1832, Winsley, Wilts. William Huntley/Maria Vatridge, Witness as James Otridge)

I’ve traced Edward (Edwin) on 1871 1881 and 1891 censuses.
However Chris and Mary I’m not sure about the Huntley connection. I’ve found Edwin Holloway m Mary A Ridler in 1866 and I think that’s the Mary Ann of the censuses.
What do you think guys?