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Bruce

Bruce Report 8 Mar 2018 21:05

Joseph Frost was baptised on 7.8.1791 at Duffield, Derby, Derbyshire.
His children's mother is shown as Charlotte
Can anyone find his marriage to Charlotte. His first child I have found was born in 1822. He lived and worked in St Johns Square Clerkenwell and East London.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:17

from a tree on ancestry

Joseph Frost

Birth: 1791 - Derbyshire, England
Death: 1857
Marriage: 13 Sep 1818 - Islington, England
Spouse: Charlotte Gandar

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:17

Name: Joseph Frost
Gender: Male
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 13 Sep 1818
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Spouse: Charlotte Gandar
Register Type: Parish Register

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:20

Is this the family in 1841 ?

Name: Joseph Frost
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1792
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration district: Clerkenwell
Sub-registration district: St James
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 661
Book: 5
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Frost 49
James Frost 19
Charlotte Frost 17
Eliza Frost 15
Emma Frost 13
Sarah Frost 11
William Frost 9
Martha Frost 7

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:23

Name: James Frost
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1822
Birth Place: St Johns Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: Joseph Frost
Mother: Charlotte Gandar
Piece Title: Piece 4665-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1824-1827

Name: Charlotte Frost
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1823
Birth Place: St Johns Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: Joseph Frost
Mother: Charlotte Gandar
Piece Title: Piece 4665-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1824-1827

Name: Eliza Frost
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1825
Birth Place: St Johns Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: Joseph Frost
Mother: Charlotte Gandar
Piece Title: Piece 4665-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1824-1827

Name: Emma Frost
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1827
Birth Place: St Johns Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: Joseph Frost
Mother: Charlotte Gandar
Piece Title: Piece 4665-1: Dr Williams' Library Registry, Birth Certificates, 1824-1827

NAME: Sarah Ann Frost
MOTHER: Charlotte Gandar
FATHER: Joseph Frost
BIRTH: 17 Jul 1829 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

NAME: William Joseph Frost
MOTHER: Charlotte Gandar
FATHER: Joseph Frost
BIRTH: 5 Jun 1831 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

NAME: Martha Maria Frost
MOTHER: Charlotte Gandar
FATHER: Joseph Frost
BIRTH: 19 Nov 1833 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England


NAME: Clara Frost
MOTHER: Charlotte Gandar
FATHER: Joseph Frost
BIRTH: 2 Mar 1836 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

Bruce

Bruce Report 8 Mar 2018 21:28

Catherine
Many thanks Yes that is the correct 1841 census record. and that will be his first marriage.
Have you any record of his second marriage to Christian Ann Lock in Jul Sep 1845.
I have the GRO reference for the marriage

The tree on Ancestry does it show the death of Charlotte or the death date of Joseph in 1857

Once again many thanks for your help.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:31

As Charlotte is not with the family in 1841, possible death??

Name: Charlotte Frost
Registration Year: 1838
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Clerkenwell
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 3
Page: 55

Name: Charlotte Frost
Age: 41
Record Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1838
Burial Date: 3 Jun 1838
Burial Place: St John, Clerkenwell, Islington, England
Register Type: Parish Register

states aged 41yrs, so born abt. 1797

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:35

Last born child Clara Frost's death

Name: Clara Frost
Age: 5
Record Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1841
Burial Date: 7 Mar 1841
Burial Place: St John, Clerkenwell, Islington, England
Register Type: Parish Register

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:37

1851 for ref:-

Name: Joseph Frost
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Christianna Frost
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: St Botolph Bishopsgate
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration district: East London
Sub-registration district: St Botolph
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 1524
Folio: 440
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Frost 60
Christianna Frost 51
James Frost 29
Elizabeth Frost 23
Infant under 1 Mo
Charlotte Frost 27
Eliza Frost 25
Emma Frost 24
Sarah Ann Frost 21
Martha Frost 17
Louisa Slater 62

so still living in 1851

Bruce

Bruce Report 8 Mar 2018 21:38

Catherine

Many thanks. That is no doubt the correct death. They were living and working in Clerkenwell.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:39

Possible death

Name: Joseph Frost
Age: 66
Record Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1857
Burial Date: 25 Nov 1857
Burial Place: St James, St Pancras, Camden, England
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

makes date of birth abt. 1791

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:41

Not the marriage but the banns

Name: Joseph Frost (Widow)
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 6 Jul 1845
Marriage Banns Place: St George the Martyr, Southwark, England
Spouse: Christian Ann Lock (Widower)
Register Type: Parish Register

........so not Christiana , but 'Christian Ann'


Marriages Sep 1845 (>99%)
Carter Eliza Islington 3 187
CASSON Mary Ann Islington 3 187
xxxxx FROST Joseph Islington 3 187 xxxxx
xxxxx Lock Christian Ann Islington 3 187 xxxxx
Thomson Matthew Islington 3 187
Walton Charlotte Islington 3 187
Williams Solomon Islington 3 187
Wood Charles William Islington 3 187

Bruce

Bruce Report 8 Mar 2018 21:45

I have found his death in the last few minutes on Findmypast. He was buried on 16.11.1857 in Highgate Cemetery. He is shown on the record as a muggletonian.
It is through that extreme religious following that I am interested.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 21:47

Sorry Bruce so busy posting what I found I didn't see your postings. :-)

Have checked the ancestry tree but they don't have an exact date of death.

Bruce

Bruce Report 8 Mar 2018 21:51

No problem, I am extremely grateful for your help.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 22:01

Ancestry shows burial as 25 Nov so wonder if he actually died on the 16th Nov

I can only see one Joseph Frost who died in last quarter of 1857 so must be the same one. You may have to buy a copy of the death cert. to find out the exact date.

Bruce

Bruce Report 8 Mar 2018 22:19

Findmypast is only a transcription so cannot be verified from their record which is correct.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Mar 2018 22:35

I'm off to bed now so hope will look in again tomorrow to see if there is anything else you need.
Good luck.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Mar 2018 10:58

As 25th on Image (Ancestry) Abode, 17 Half Moon St. Bishopsgate. (not seeing 'Muggletonian')

Perhaps there was a Gravestone.

(also on below)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Chris :)

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=muggletonian

(is that him on above?, held at British Library, they also have below)

https://tinyurl.com/y9zjpmce

(Author: Joseph FROST, and (Isaac)
Contributor: Isaac FROST Muggletonian)


Death
FROST, ISAAC (65)
GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 181


https://tinyurl.com/yb9nqno3

(quite a few things on google search, Joseph and Isaac above)


(above Burial on D Online Link, Camden) (also Ancestry, Abode, Tavistock Terrace, Upper Holloway, Islington)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggletonianism

Bruce

Bruce Report 9 Mar 2018 19:23

Many thanks Chris