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Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 16 May 2018 12:26

Maddie

Just found a 1816 marriage record for a Mary Culliss in the same church as Maria's baptism. Mary marries a Thomas Francis, doesn't mean he's Maria's father or even if it's the same Mary Culliss, but it does make you wonder?

Steve

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 May 2018 12:37

highly likely
here they are 1841 ??????
Coalford, Broseley, Madeley, Shropshire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Francis Male 53 1788 Shropshire, England
Transcription
Mary Francis Female 46 1795 Shropshire, England

1861
Lloydhead, Broseley, Madeley, Shropshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Francis Head Married Male 73 1788 Servant Waterman Broseley, Shropshire, England
Transcription
Mary Francis Wife Married Female 66 1795 Nurse Broseley, Shropshire, England

1881
Coalford, Broseley, Madeley, Shropshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Mary Francis Head Widow Female 86 1795 Broseley, Shropshire, England

Margaret
Last name Francis
Birth year -
Baptism year 1817
Baptism date 23 Feb 1817
Denomination Anglican
Place Broseley
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism
Register date range 1813-1833
Archive reference P44/A/2/1
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Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 16 May 2018 13:42

Thanks Maddie!

mgnv

mgnv Report 18 May 2018 06:51

One can buy BMD certs from the GRO and from the local office that now holds the rego's (one can also buy m.certs fron the actual church if it's in their current rego).

Some local indexes are online - see:
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

In particular:
http://www.northtyneside.gov.uk/browse.shtml?p_subjectCategory=1289

GRINSON, Thomas
Marriage date: 1867
Register Book, Entry Number: C-3 1, 366

AUSTIN, Sarah
Marriage date: 1867
Register Book, Entry Number: C-3 1, 366

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MOAT, Robert
Marriage date: 1871
Father's Surname: MOAT
Register Book, Entry Number: W17, 110

GRIMSON, Sarah
Marriage date: 1871
Father's Surname: AUSTIN
Register Book, Entry Number: W17, 110

AUSTIN, Sarah
Marriage date: 1871
Father's Surname: AUSTIN
Register Book, Entry Number: W17, 110

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This resolves who wed whom, compared with the GRO ind

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
AUSTIN Sarah Tynemouth 10b 299
GRINSON Thomas Tynemouth 10b 299
Wheatley Thomas Tynemouth 10b 299
Williams Elizabeth Ann Tynemouth 10b 299

Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)
DOWSE Jane Ann Tynemouth 10b 317
GRINSON Sarah Tynemouth 10b 317
Moat Robert Tynemouth 10b 317
OWENS Elias Tynemouth 10b 317


The first element of the local ref is a code for the church (or subdistrict for Bs and Ds)
The second element of the local ref is a register sequence number for that code
The third element of the local ref is an entry number or a page number. Marrs usually have an entry number.

S Tyneside has a web page that's a key for decoding their marr locations, but here we're left guessing.
C-3 looks like a CofE church, and the registrar's own rego usually begins with an R, but it's W here.

For instance. the modern RD of Wigan & Leigh contains 3 former RDs, Wigan, Leigh and Ince and uses the codes ROW, ROL, ROI.
The registrar's own rego's don't just contain rego office marrs.
Up to 1898, only C of E, jews and quakers were authorized to keep official marr rego's, so a marr in a non-conformist church would need a registrar (or assistant) to attend with an official marr rego for the couple to sign to complete the ceremony.
After 1898, non-conformists could apply to be authorized to keep official marr rego's. Approval could take a couple of years, although RCs chose not to apply until 1980-ish.

Local B & D rego's had 500 entries - 5 per page.