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Harold M McLaren b1925 Jamaica

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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 25 May 2018 17:05

just had a look at Cheshire BMD only one death and that's a Robert McLaren, in 2013 so not him.
There is about 6 Homes in the area so not much chance of finding him. hay ho

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 May 2018 11:15

If yours is the one in Cheshire, he may have died in 2007 or 2008, just before the house was sold, but if so, his death isn't online yet.

Or he may have moved into a care home.
There's no sign of him on ERs on 192.com

No probate record for him to date.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 May 2018 11:09

The Harold who died in Jamaica in 1972 clearly isn't the one living in Cheshire.

However, to answer your questions, Elizabeth -

There are no Harold M McLarens born in Scotland, per ScotlandsPeople.


Re the death in Jamaica - his birthplace is given as St Catherine, so, combined with different YOB, he's almost certainly not your Harold.
Informant was Vincent Richard, present at death - could be just a hospital employee.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 May 2018 08:23

Was at the same address from at least 1970,S

Phone book records
Name: Harold.M McLaren
Address: Plot 426 Elton Pk,Elton...
Publication Year: 1973
Directory Place: Cheshire, Wales
Exchange: Thornton-le-Moors
Page Number: 211

Name: Harold.M McLaren
Address: 5 Parkland Dv.Elton...
Publication Year: 1976
Directory Place: Cheshire, Wales
Exchange: Thornton-le-Moors
Page Number: 236

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 25 May 2018 02:04

re- phonebook entry, carn't find a Harold M McLaren in births that could be a match, unless there is one born in Scotland.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 25 May 2018 01:30

I think that could be him Argyllgran. On area check St Catherine and Clarendon are bordering parishes. is there anyway of finding out who the informant was like you did for Dudley and Agatha

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2018 20:52

5 Parkland drive, Elton, Cheshire, was last sold in March 2008, per Zoopla.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 May 2018 18:49

So, is the phone book entry being discounted?

Is there any UK record of another Harold M Mclaren to whom it could relate?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2018 17:51

Re Dudley's death, posted by Shirley -

the informant was Melvin Hall, of Manchester Avenue. That's also Dudley's address, but whether they were in the same house, or just neighbours, I can't say. No house numbers given. Maybe it's just where Dudley died, not his home address.


The informant for Agatha's death was Carl Edwards, of Brooksedge, May Pen, which is also the address at which Agatha died.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2018 17:39

Jamaican records online (FamilySearch) don't go beyond 1999.

Can't see any sign of him before that.

There's this death, but probably not him - YOB out by three years. No other identifying info given:

Harold Mclaren
Jamaica, Civil Registration
Name Harold Mclaren
Event Type Death
Event Date 07 Jun 1972
Event Place Linstead, Saint Catherine, Jamaica
Gender Male
Age 50
Birth Year (Estimated) 1922
Page EC3463

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 24 May 2018 17:24

thank's for all the info, That's my man Shirley.
from what I know he was believed to have returned to Jamaica,
From the mothers death record I am wondering now if he returned home for her funeral and never came back, I know the son never had any contact. Can anyone find a re-marriage for him in Jamaica or a death record

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 May 2018 16:28

I'm aware of that, thanks.

That's why I posted the info - confirmation of previous posts

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 May 2018 15:17

That's not the same Harold

The one being looked for was born in 1925 :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 May 2018 13:01

The chap who died in Canada

DEATHS

H. D. (HARRY) McLAREN

At hospital in Ottawa on Thursday, January 20, 1972 Mr. H. D. McLaren of 188 Wingham Place, Ottawa. Born near Virden, Manitoba Mr. McLaren was a member of the original 12th Manitoba Dragoons. He served overseas during the First World War for several years with rank of Major in the 107th battalion. On his return to Canada he was employed with the Soldiers Settlement Board and later as land valuator for the Great West Life Assurance Co. during those years he was stationed chiefly in Brandon retiring to Mandeville Street, St. James and later to Ottawa. He was predeceased by his loving wife, Lila (nee Hopkins) in October, 1970. Surviving are one son; Ellis of the National Research Council, Ottawa and two daughters; Mrs. Muriel Barr, Montreal and Mrs. Robert Crawford, Sarnia, Ontario and three grandchildren. He is also survived by a sister, Mina in Saskatchewan. Funeral service and interment to be held in Ottawa.

Published in the Winnipeg Free Press on Friday, January 21, 1972.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 May 2018 12:58

UK Phone Book

Name: Harold M McLaren
Address: 5 Parkland Dv,Elton
Publication Year: 1981
Directory Place: Lancaster, England
Exchange: Helsby
Page Number: 255

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 May 2018 12:41

As Gwyn mentions, he is mentioned here.

The Ottawa Journal from Ottawa, on June 6, 1972 ยท Page 45
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/46265969/

6 Jun 1972 - NOTICE TO CREDITORS AND OTHERS In the Estote of Harold Milton McLaren, commonly known ond described as Harold Douglas McLaren, ...

You can get a free trial if you wish to view that clipping but I think the person mentioned is this man. I am going by the year of death so I may be wrong.


Harold Douglas Milton McLaren was born on month day 1886, at birth place, to Henry Martyn McLaren and Elizabeth McLaren (born Ewing).
Henry was born on December 22 1838, in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
Harold passed away on month day 1972, at age 85 at death place.


From https://www.myheritage.com/names/harold_mclaren

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 24 May 2018 09:04

A Google search of his name shows a newspaper mention in Ottawa.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 May 2018 07:56

Several siblings

All Results Save Print
Dudley Mclaren
in the Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930
Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930 No Image
Text-only collection
Report issue
Name: Dudley Mclaren
Gender: Male
Spouse: Agatha Sutherland
Child: Leonard Newton Mclaren

Name: Leonard Newton Mclaren
Gender: Male
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1919
Birth Place: Kingston, Kingston, Jamaica
Father: Dudley Mclaren
Mother: Agatha Sutherland
FHL Film Number: 821477


Name: Leonard Mclaren
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 29 Apr 1944
Marriage Place: Kingston, Kingston, Jamaica
Father: Dudley Mclaren
Spouse: Sybil Winifred Stephens
FHL Film Number: 001855647



Name: Dudley Mclaren
Gender: Male
Spouse: Agatha Sutherland
Child: Harris Fitzroy Mclaren

Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930 No Image
Text-only collection
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Name: Harris Fitzroy Mclaren
Gender: Male
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1923
Birth Place: Kingston, Kingston, Jamaica
Father: Dudley Mclaren
Mother: Agatha Sutherland
FHL Film Number: 1667191

He went to the US

Harris F McLaren
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1923
Address: 406 NW 68th Ave Apt 323, Plantation, FL, 33317-7524

Name: Dudley Mclaren
Gender: Male
Spouse: Agatha Sutherland
Child: Donald Calbeck Mclaren


Name: Donald Calbeck Mclaren
Gender: Male
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1930
Birth Place: Kingston, Kingston, Jamaica
Father: Dudley Mclaren
Mother: Agatha Sutherland
FHL Film Number: 1667224


Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930 No Image
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Name: Dudley Mc Laren
Gender: Male
Spouse: Agatha Sutherland
Child: Noel George Mc Laren


Name: Noel George Mc Laren
Gender: Male
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1927
Birth Place: Crossroads, Saint Andrew, Jamaica
Father: Dudley Mc Laren
Mother: Agatha Sutherland
FHL Film Number: 1667280

Sadly died as a baby

Name: Noel George Mclaren
Gender: Male
Event Type: Death
Birth Date: 1928
Birth Place: Saint Andrew
Death Date: 16 Feb 1928
Death Place: Saint Andrew, Crossroads, Saint Andrew, Jamaica
Death Age: 0
FHL Film Number: 001667312



Father's death

Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930 No Image
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Name: Dudley Mclaren
Gender: Male
Event Type: Death
Birth Date: 1895
Birth Place: Clarendon
Death Date: 8 Nov 1971
Death Place: Clarendon, May Pen, Clarendon, Jamaica
Death Age: 76
FHL Film Number: 001937829


Don't know if you can get the cert to see who the informant was

Mother


Name: Agatha Mclaren
Gender: Female
Event Type: Death
Birth Date: 1895
Birth Place: Clarendon
Death Date: 4 May 1956
Death Place: Clarendon, May Pen, Clarendon, Jamaica
Death Age: 61
Spouse: Dudley Mclaren
FHL Film Number: 001934867



So the family seem to have permanently lived in Jamaica .its possible Harold returned there online travel though mostly ends c1950

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 May 2018 07:48

Harolds parents


Name: Dudley Mclaren
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 4 Mar 1919
Marriage Place: Kingston, Kingston, Jamaica
Father: Hezekiah Mclaren
Spouse: Agatha Sutherland
FHL Film Number: 1389505
Page: 6

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 May 2018 07:44

ANNIE LOUISE
Last name MCLAREN
Gender Female
Birth day 22
Birth month 12
Birth year 1909
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1998
District South Cheshire
District number 3411D
Register number D1B
Entry number 021
Date of registration mm/yy 0498
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
(c) brightsolid online publishing lt

How does her death cert decribe her status

Was the informant her son born in1950