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MAUD ADA HARDING Death Record

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Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 14 Jun 2018 11:32

Maud Ada Harding [married name] was born in 1861+/- in London. Her only daughter was the second wife of my GGGrandfather.

I can see her in 1901 [incorrect name transcription], got the divorce entry from her husband William Daniel Harding, etc., but cannot see her in 1911 nor her death.

Please can you help?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2018 11:36



For info

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)

Davies Maud Ada Lewisham 1d 1226
HARDING William Daniel Lewisham 1d 1226

Have you tried looking under her maiden anme?

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Jun 2018 11:39

do the nephews ring a bell
1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
71 Uplands Road Stroud Green Hornsey N, Hornsey, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Maud Harding Head Single Female 49 1862 Brixton Surrey -
Transcription
Urban Collings Nephew Single Male 28 1883 Sedgeley Staff Advertising Agent
Transcription
Clement Harry Collings Nephew Single Male 27 1884 Woodsetton Staff Bank Clerk
Transcription


Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 14 Jun 2018 11:43

The nephews ring no bells.

I will try to see if she reverted to her maiden name but this seems unlikely since she is still using her married name of Harding in 1901 despite a very messy divorce!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2018 11:43

Again for info

Name: Mana A Harding
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St John and St Margaret
Search Photos: Search for 'St John and St Margaret' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St Margaret and St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 95
Folio: 131
Page Number: 31
Household schedule number: 237
Household Members:
Name Age
Mana A Harding 40
Robert R Hervey 71
Dorothy M Hervey 21
Mary Austin 43
Alice Neal 20

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2018 11:44

????????

Name: Ada Harding
Death Age: 62
Birth Date: abt 1860
Registration Date: Jun 1922
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 384

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 14 Jun 2018 11:50

Thank you so far. I think that the possible death isn't her - she and her only daughter were very close and I don't think it possible that she would have registered her mother's name incorrectly.

greyghost

greyghost Report 14 Jun 2018 11:53

Is this your family in 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lenham Lodge, Lee, Lewisham, London & Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Harding Head Married Male 29 1852 London, Middlesex, England Surveyor
Maud Harding Wife Married Female 22 1859 London, Middlesex, England -
Dorothy Harding Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Lee, Kent, England -
Anna Norman Servant Single Female 23 1858 Nunhead, Somerset, England Genl Servt
Mary Pipe Servant Single Female 15 1866 Lee, Kent, England Nursemaid
Florence Braindon Visitor Single Female 22 1859 Chiswick, Middlesex, England Annuitant

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HARDING, DOROTHY MAUD DAVIES Order
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in LEWISHAM UNION Volume 01D Page 1099

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2018 11:55

Apparently born 1858 - earlier than Nicola suggests:

Births Mar 1858 (>99%)
Davies Maud Ada Islington 1b 206

Doesn't seem to help the search for her in 1911, however!

greyghost

greyghost Report 14 Jun 2018 11:59

Trying to track ages given and areas living

? Dorothy with Grandparents in 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Cottage, Dacre Park, Lee, Lewisham, London & Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward Davies Head Married Male 52 1839 Middlesex, England Secretary To A Public Co
Julia Davies Wife Married Female 53 1838 Middlesex, England Pianist
Gerald Davies Son Single Male 30 1861 Middlesex, England Clerk At Herolds Coll
Dorothy Harding Granddaughter Single Female 11 1880 Kent, England Scholar
Harriett Bowdidge Servant Single Female 24 1867 Kent, England Cook Domestic Servant
Beatrice Eeles Servant Single Female 17 1874 Kent, England Housemaid

and is this Maud -

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Carlisle Mansions, Carlisle Place, Westminster, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Maud Harding - Married Female 29 1862 London, Middlesex, England -
Mary Austin Servant Single Female 32 1859 Kent, England Maid

greyghost

greyghost Report 14 Jun 2018 12:03

And is this them living together in 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Carlisle Mansions, 29, Carlisle Place, St Margaret and St John, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Maud A Harding Head Married Female 40 1861 London, Middlesex, England Living On Own Means
Robert K Harvey Son-In-Law Married Male 71 1830 Wigan, Lancashire, England Retired Barrister
Dorothy M Harvey Daughter Married Female 21 1880 Lee, Kent, England Living On Own Means
Mary Austin Servant Single Female 43 1858 Erith, Kent, England Cook Domestic
Alice Neal Servant Single Female 20 1881 London, Middlesex, England Housemaid Domestic

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First name(s) ROBERT KIBBLE
Last name HERVEY
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1898
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBERT KIBBLE HERVEY married
Dorothy Maud Harding
District St. George Hanover Square
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Volume as transcribed 1A
Page number 732
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 14 Jun 2018 12:03

Big yesses to all your suggestions. As you can see, a curious background but we know that it is all correct. :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Jun 2018 12:16

???

in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-196

Name: Maude Ada Harding
Year: 1905
County or Borough: Westminster
Ward or Division/Constituency: City of Westminster
Street address: 29 Carlisle mansions

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 14 Jun 2018 12:18

Oooh, that looks like a positive! I'm afraid that I don't understand the 'Web' reference you've given and how do I find/source the actual Death Certificate please?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2018 12:27

Do you mean the 1922 possible death posted by Erika?

You would have to buy a copy of the death cert from GRO website, using the reference numbers given in Erika's post.

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Jun 2018 12:28

sorry must have crossed paths, deleted the death record as it related to a child who was born and died in 1905

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2018 12:33

She's not with her daughter Dorothy in 1911 - Dorothy had remarried.


Dorothy Maud Hawken
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Dorothy Maud Hawken
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Blackheath, Kent
Civil Parish: Cornworthy
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: The Vicarage, Cornworthy, Totnes, Devon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 5
Estimated Marriage Year: 1906
Registration district: Totnes
Registration District Number: 273
Sub-registration district: Harberton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 12852
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Sydney Hawken 49
Dorothy Maud Hawken 31
Gwendolen Francis Hawken 17
Gerald Humphrey Hawken 15
Bessie Glanvill 33
Beatrice Jane Lorey 16
William Sheldon 35
Ellen Sheldon 38
Barbara Penelope Hawken 1
Ninian John Patrick Hawken 0


Dorothy Maud Hervey
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Dorothy Maud Hervey
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 709
Records on Page:
Name
Charles Sydney Hawken
Dorothy Maud Hervey

greyghost

greyghost Report 14 Jun 2018 12:43

An Ancestry tree has Robert Hervey died 1904 in Switzerland.
Dorothy remarried. The tree shows her in Cornwall with family in 1911. Could Maud have ventured in that direction if they were as close as you say?

If Mother and daughter were close, could Maud also have died abroad whilst travelling?

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) DOROTHY MAUD
Last name HERVET
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1906
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ DOROTHY MAUD HERVET married one of these people
Richard Winch, Charles Sydney Hawken
District St. George Hanover Square
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Volume as transcribed 1A
Page number 709

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Vicarage Cornworthy Totnes, Cornworthy, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Charles Sydney Hawken Head Married Male 49 1862 Tamerton Foliott Devon Clerk In Holy Orders Vicar Cornworthy Transcription
Dorothy Maud Hawken Wife Married Female 31 1880 Blackheath Kent -
Gwendolen Francis Hawken Daughter Single Female 17 1894 Bodalla New South Wales Resident -
Gerald Humphrey Hawken Son Single Male 15 1896 Bodalla New South Wales Resident -
Bessie Glanvill Monthly Nurse Single Female 33 1878 Clapham London Certificated Midwife
Beatrice Jane Lorey Servant Single Female 16 1895 Ugborough Devon Nurse Maid
William Sheldon Servant Married Male 35 1876 Plymouth Devon Groom Gas Dealer And Army Pensioner
Ellen Sheldon Servant Married Female 38 1873 Renzance Cornwall Cook General
Barbara Penelope Hawken Daughter - Female 1 1910 Cornworthy Devon -
Vivian John Patrick Hawken Son - Male 0 1911 Cornworthy Devon -

HAWKEN, NINIAN JOHN PATRICK HARDING Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in TOTNES Volume 05B Page 148

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Jun 2018 12:44

a tree on ancestry has nothing for after 1901

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2018 12:56

Just because I came across it, though irrelevant to this search -

you said Dorothy was her only daughter - but could this have been another, who died in infancy??

HARDING, RUTH mms DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in LEWISHAM Volume 01D Page 1078


HARDING, RUTH 0
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in LEWISHAM Volume 01D Page 672