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And maybe in 1891. Original says b Blaenrhondda which is part of the community of Treherbert. David Lewis is 1 month old and born LLanddarog which is in CArmarthan RD so probably the birth I posted earlier Q! 1891 with no mmn

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tycsnol, Cwrt, Llanddarog, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Levi James Head Married Male 68 1823 Carmarthenshire, Wales General Labourer
Hannah James Wife Married Female 72 1819 Carmarthenshire, Wales -
Hannah Mary Lewis Granddaughter Single Female 19 1872 Glamorganshire, Wales Servant Girl
David Lewis Great Grandson - Male 0 1891 Carmarthenshire, Wales -

Just posting whilst hunting around, these next 2 posts are very ??

The marriage certificate of Hannah Mary to John should reveal their Father's names and occupations but
???? could this be the family. Note the Father's name here and her own first child was David. According to genuki.org Ystradyfodwg is the former name for the Rhondda

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
38, Caroline Street, Ystradyfodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
David Lewis Head Married Male 32 1849 Carmarthenshire, Wales Coal Miner
Mary Lewis Wife Married Female 30 1851 Pontardawe, Glamorganshire, Wales -
Hannah M Lewis Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Treherbert, Glamorganshire, Wales Scholar
Elizabeth Lewis Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Treherbert, Glamorganshire, Wales Scholar
David Lewis Son Single Male 2 1879 Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales -
Jane Lewis Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Treherbert, Glamorganshire, Wales -

If we have the right family your GG Grandad was John Williams b c 1870 and GG Grandmother was Hannah Mary Lewis b c 1871/2/3 (From 1901/1911 census)

?? This could be Hannah Mary's birth registration

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
LEWIS, HANNAH MARY REES Order
GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 387

1901 says born Treherbert and 1911 Pentre (on original not Pentred as Transcript) - They are about 3 or 4 miles apart in the Rhondda Valley an area covered by Pontypridd RD

??
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)
Lewis David Pontypridd 11a 390 <<<<<
Lewis Edward Pontypridd 11a 390
REES Mary Pontypridd 11a 390 <<<<<
Thomas Jennett Pontypridd 11a 390

an Edward and Jennett Lewis are on the 1871 census in Ystradyfodwg

I posted the possibility of David being born before the 1892 marriage of John Williams to Hannah Mary Lewis in 1893. The 1911 census posted lists Mum as Hannah Mary. It's in the Carmarthan RD as are Shadrach and David's births.

Carl is this what makes you say all the children were called Lewis Williams?
eg.
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WILLIAMS, SHADRACH LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 1141

Shadrach was registered as Shadrach Williams and it's the Mother's maiden name that is Lewis. the same follows for the other births I posted.

It would seem you're missing the birth for Gladys and Gwen. Look for gaps between births of the children that show on census.

The 1911 says the marriage had produced 9 children of which 6 were still living. So 2 or 3 births to find (David might not have been theirs) who presumably were born and died between census.

At only 40, Hannah Mary could have had further children too anytime post the census date.

That would make sense why they called all the children Lewis Williams. I have a very old pic of a young child with Shadrach on the back, I didn't have a clue who this was nor where it came from. I could only think it came from my late mums photos.

so the son david in 1901 aged 10 census was born before they married

The 1911 has them married 19 years so c1892. The one greyghost posted looks closest to this.

I shall have a look now, thank you for your help.

the 1911 census looks like the family

Marriages Jun 1886
LEWIS Hannah Llandilofawr 11a 1093
Williams John Llandilofawr 11a 1093

Hi all, from what I have found from living relatives and records is that my G.G dad Thomas Williams was born in 1902 and died in 1969. He married Elsie Walker in 1924 but moved to Pen-y-groes and it looks as if his last days were spent there. I think he was 1 of 9? But I only have the 7 names I put on my first post but this is unclear. It is thought that my G.G.G dad was a John Williams born around 1873 but this isn't clear. Sadly I haven't got a name for my G.G.G mother but my family still pass on there names even today.
Thomas was born in Llandybie Llandilofawr.

Im now thinking that the names I have for Thomas siblings are close but not right.

Hope this helps peeps and thank you.

Wow guys, thank you for all the responses. I haven't found any records of the family as it looks like Thomas moved away possibly. Which would make sense that grey ghost has found all of the above. You guys are truly amazing, I'll be back later to answer some more questions. Thank you

??
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)
Howells Elizabeth Mary Carmarthen 11a 1148
Lewis Hannah Mary Carmarthen 11a 1148 <<<<<<<
Thomas Thomas Carmarthen 11a 1148
Williams John Carmarthen 11a 1148 <<<<<<<<

Possibly the census you've posted are a good find Malyon, the names certainly fit what Carl has put in his OP.

The RD of Llandilofawr and Llanarthney are next to each other and the places are only 5 miles or so apart

The RD Carmarthen covers Llanarthney where Shadrach is said to be born on the 1911 census

Cross Sands on transcript 1901 is probably Cross Hands

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WILLIAMS, SHADRACH LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 1141

?? born pre marriage but John acknowledged he was Father
WILLIAMS, DAVID LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 1009
or this on with no MMN suggesting illegitimate
LEWIS, DAVID - Order
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 1069

?? Morgan on the 1901 posted but Mary Ann 1911
WILLIAMS, MARY ANN LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in CARMARTHEN Volume 11A Page 1145

??Hannah from the 1901 aged 10 months on original I think. Bridgend covers Peterson super Montem where the family are living
WILLIAMS, HANNAH MAUD LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 819

WILLIAMS, THOMAS LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 910

?? Lelles on the 1911 and Geraint's Letty?
WILLIAMS, LETITIA LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 954

?? Doris from the 1911
WILLIAMS, RACHEL DORIS LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 1021

On the 1911, places of birth for the younger children are given as Path on the transcript. The original doesn't look like Path, but quite what it is I don't know

The 1911 says that John and Hannah had had 9 children - 6 still living and 3 had died

John Williams
Wales, Glamorganshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
Name: John Williams
Event Type: Marriage Banns
Event Date: 14 Oct 1889
Event Place: Ystradyfodwg, St John, Glamorganshire, Wales
Spouse's Name: Hannah Jones

family in 1901

amily Tree Genealogies Catalog Books Wiki
Hannah Williams
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name: Hannah Williams
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Peterstone Super Montem, Glamorganshire, Wales
County: Glamorganshire
Civil Parish: Peterstone Super Montem
Ecclesiastical Parish: Coychurch With Peterstone
Sub-District: Cowbridge
Registration District: Bridgend
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated): 1901
Birthplace: Brynna, Glamorganshire
Schedule Type: 36
Page Number: 7
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Williams Head Male 29 Cross Sands, Carmarthenshire
Hannah Williams Wife Female 28 Treherbert, Glamorganshire
David Williams Son Male 10 Cross Sands, Carmarthenshire
Shadrack Williams Son Male 5 Cross Sands, Carmarthenshire
Morgann Williams Daughter Female 3 Cross Sands, Carmarthenshire
Hannah Williams Daughter Female 0 Brynna, Glamorganshire

1911 census
Thomas Williams
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name: Thomas Williams
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Llanarthney, Gorslas Llandebie S O Carm, Carmarthenshire, Wales
County: Carmarthenshire
Parish: Llanarthney
Sub-District: Llangendeirne
Registration District: Carmarthen
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Marital Status (Original): SINGLE
Occupation: SCHOOL
Birth Year (Estimated): 1902
Birthplace: Path, Glamorganshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Line: 6
Page: 1
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Williams Head Male 41 Llanarthney, Carmarthenshire
Hannah Mary Williams Wife Female 40 Pentred, Glamorganshire
Shadrack Williams Son Male 15 Llanarthney, Carmarthenshire
Mary Ann Williams Daughter Female 14 Llanarthney, Carmarthenshire
Hannah Williams Daughter Female 12 Path, Glamorganshire
Thomas Williams Son Male 9 Path, Glamorganshire
Lelles Williams Daughter Female 6 Path, Glamorganshire
Doris Williams Daughter Female 2 Path, Glamorganshire

Yes, it's about that time of night me thinks alviegal !

EDIT - see below, I never did get there - well not until later than is good for me.

Perhaps Carl has gone to bed gg. I'll look back tomorrow to see if he's replied to any of our questions. :-)

If that 1939 of alviegals' is correct -

Thomas Williams married one of these people
Elsie G Walker
Spouse's last name Walker
District Llandilofawr
District number -
County Carmarthenshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Volume as transcribed 11A
Page number 2679
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England and Wales births

First name(s) Joseph J
Last name Williams
Birth year 1928
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Walker
District Llandilofawr
County Carmarthenshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 1869

and

First name(s) William T
Last name Williams
Birth year 1932
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Walker
District Llandilofawr
County Carmarthenshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 1575

The marriage certificate would give Father's names and an occupation which might help to track the family in 1911