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George Foster Hornby 1891 census

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Sep 2018 17:23


Catherine Tulip's father is named as Tom Tulip:

Albert Beaumont
in the West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985
Name: Albert Beaumont
Birth Date: abt 1891
Event Type: Marriage
Father: George William Beaumont, deceased, carter
Marriage Date: 26 Feb 1920
Marriage Age: 29
Spouse: Catherine Laing
Spouse Marriage Age: 28
Archive Location: Wakefield
Parish or Chapel: Wesley Chapel, Broad Street, Halifax
Spouse Father: Tom Tulip, driver.
Residence Place: Halifax
Reel Number: Halifax, Hanging Heaton, Hartshead, Haworth, Hebden; WC 8
Reference Number: C111/320

Catherine's address: 84 Northgate, Halifax.
Albert's address: 36 Parker Street, Claremount, Halifax

Witnesses: Mary *** HORNBY *** and Frank Taylor.


Looks like Catherine/Kate reverted to her birth surname before marriage.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Sep 2018 17:03

Re Charles Laing - Kate's uncle in 1911 -

This looks like him in 1881:

Charles Laing
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Charles Laing
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: David Laing
Mother: Elisabeth Laing
Gender: Male
Where born: Hebburn, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 7 Hood St
Occupation: Scoler
Registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 31a
Neighbors:
Piece: 5026
Folio: 39
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
David Laing 45
Elisabeth Laing 46
Kat. Lang 10
David Lang 8
Charles Laing 6
William Laing
Joseph Grant 25
John Front 52
William Bastron 27


Same family in 1871 - his sister Johana is Hannah who married George?

Johana Laing
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Johana Laing
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: David Laing
Mother's name: Elizabeth Laing
Gender: Female
Where born: Jarrow, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Hebburn
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 115
Piece: 5045
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
David Laing 35
Elizabeth Laing 36
Johana Laing 8
Margaret Laing 5
Catherine Laing 9 Months
Jessie Laing 14


LAING, JOANNA mms WATSON
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS UNION Volume 10A Page 509



By 1881 Joanna/Johana is called Hannah.
With her sister Margaret in service with the Forster family:

Hannah Laing
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Hannah Laing
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relationship to Head: Kitchenmaid
Gender: Female
Where born: Hebburn Quay, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 113 Clayton Street
Occupation: Kitchenmaid
Registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors:
Piece: 5025
Folio: 11
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Forster 40
Margt. Ann Forster 41
William Thos. Forster 16
Nicholas Forster 14
Matthew Forster 12
John Swanson Forster 9
George Forster 8
Mary Jane Forster 6
Ann Eliza Forster 5
Eleanor Forster 3
Ellen Stokes 17
Clarice Blake 18
Jesse Ann Callo 19
Jesse Corbett 19
Christiana McPherson 19
Hannah Laing 18 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Maggie Laing 16 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< nurse, Hebburn Quay

Sylann

Sylann Report 6 Sep 2018 14:33

Sorry for the delay

I'll look into this more The ancestry connection could be the same as the one I've seen It does seem to fit in the Hornsby - Hornby always transcribed wrong


Thank you for helping

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Sep 2018 12:49

Ancestry thinks Catherine Tulip and Kate are the same person - not necessarily correct.


Kate Hornsby
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Kate Hornsby
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hebburn, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hebburn
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 46 Cuthbert St Hebburn Quay
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Rope Spinner
Registration district: South Shields
Registration District Number: 556
Sub-registration district: Jarrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Piece: 30381
Household Members:
Name Age
Chartes Laing 35
Mary Ellen Laing 28
Elizabeth Laing 6
David Laing 5
John Laing 4
Jessie Laing 1
Ellen Laing 6/12
Kate Hornsby 21

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Sep 2018 11:26

The children of the marriage that had died before 1911 were Mary Elizabeth, Thomas William and Cecelia.

Has anyone found Catherine Tulip Laing in 1911 please?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Sep 2018 10:25

I don't think that marriage is your Catherine. Here they are in 1939 and the birth year is wrong - unless of course she lied.

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Beaumont Household (5 People)
4 All Souls Terrace , Halifax C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Albert Beaumont

Catherine Beaumont
DOB 13 Jul 1891
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 220
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Winnie Tucker (Beaumont)

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

George W Beaumont

Ref: RG101/3396B/020/27 Letter Code:
© Findmypast Ltd

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Sep 2018 10:15

If the marriage is correct, she married as Laing so unlikely to be George's daughter. It might be worth getting the marriage certificate to see if she names a father and the witnesses may prove helpful.

Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%)
Beaumont Albert Laing Halifax 9a 987
Laing Catherine Beaumont Halifax 9a 987

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 22:24

says kate's dad is edward

Name: Jessie Hornby
Sex: Female
Husband: Edward Hornby
Child: Kate Hornby
Other information in the record of Kate Hornby
from England Births and Christenings

Name: Kate Hornby
Residence Place: Goole, York, England
Gender: Unknown
Christening Date: 05 Apr 1890
Christening Date (Original): 5 Apr 1890
Christening Place: Goole, York, England
Father's Name: Edward Hornby
Mother's Name: Jessie Hornby

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 22:15

this could be jessie's death

Deaths Mar 1937 (>99%)
Hornby Jessie J 81 Goole 9c 1248

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 21:48

George F Hornby
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: George F Hornby
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1922
Registration District: South Shields
County: Durham
Event Place: South Shields, Durham, England
Age (available after 1866): 66
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Volume: 10A
Page: 718
Line Number: 101

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 21:12

there is only one birth for a kate hornby in 1889

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Hornby Kate Goole 9c 764

and her death

Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Hornby Kate 0 Goole 9c 502

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:58

Found the tree that has Kate on it

Catherine Tulip Laing born 1889 Durham ??
They have her marrying a Albert Beaumont 28 Feb 1920


They have the same 1901 & 1911 ??

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 20:57

is this the kate mentioned by kathleen born goole 1889

Kate Hornby
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Hornby Kate 0 Goole 9c 502

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:47

The marriage is the wrong one it's Jessie Turnbull who George f married 1881

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:45

yes that is him as I said he married 3 times in 9yrs
The next is Elizabeth Smith in 1885 she died 1886
The 1890 he married Hannah Laing

Some one has Hannah with a ….….Tulip and they have that Kate is his?? that's why I wanted the 1891 census

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Sep 2018 20:33

There is this marriage which could be the parents of Kate (although I know the first names of George are different):-

First name(s) Edward George
Last name Hornby
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1878
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™

Edward George Hornby married one of these people

>>>>>Jessie Hanley,<<<<< Eliza Waltis, Eliza Walks

Then this census in 1881:-

George F Hornby's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

George F Hornby Head Married Male 25 1856 Engine Fitter York, Yorkshire, England
Jessie J Hornby Wife Married Female 24 1857 - Hartlepool, Yorkshire, England<<<<<<<<<

The odd thing is that Jessie seems to have died in 1882. I wonder if George registered Kate's birth and unwittingly gave Jessie's maiden name instead of Hannah's????

Can't find them in 1891 census though.

EDIT - forget Jessie being the mother of Kate, I think this could be Kate's birth:-



Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
LAING, CATHERINE TULIP
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 787

No mother's maiden name given so she was illegitimate.

Kath. x


KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Sep 2018 20:26

The only Kate Hornby I can find born at the right time (1889) is this one:-

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HORNBY, KATE HANLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in GOOLE Volume 09C Page 764

Could George have been married previously?

Kath. x

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:19

Just looked at both censuses and they are in the same house for 1901 & 1911

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:17

She is with the family Hebburn Durham aged 12

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Sep 2018 20:08

Where is Kate in 1901 as I can't find her?

EDIT - found her now on Findmypast with family mistranscribed as Homly.

Kath. x