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I need help to find my Great Aunt, Ethel Taylor

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Susan

Susan Report 15 Oct 2018 20:30

Hello,
I have been trying to trace my father's side of my family tree, but didn't know much about any of his relatives. Apart from a cousin called Robert Taylor (uncle bob) who had been in the Merchant Navy, and an aunt of his, Auntie Ethel, who lived in Westbury Street in Thornaby, and is on my Christening certificate as my Godmother. This was in 1952!!

My name is Catherine (nee)Rees

My Father's name was William Taylor Rees
I hope someone may be able to help.

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2018 20:39

Susan/Catherine - can you give as much detail as possible please about your Father to help us help you.
eg.
Where does the Taylor Rees fit in your Father's name if Aunty was a Taylor. Is that a Taylor-Rees or is Taylor a given name?
when was he born
where was he born
Do you have any idea who his parents were

How old are/were cousin Robert and Auntie Ethel

Did your parents marry - his marriage certificate to your Mother should name his Father

Where is Thornaby - ? Thornaby on Tees in North Yorkshire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Oct 2018 21:04

Where does Ethel fit in ?

Is she a sister of one of your parents

Have you identified where she fits in the family

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Oct 2018 21:12

Is this relevant?

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Christan Household (5 People)
86 Westbury Street , Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Ethel Taylor (Christan)
DOB
06 Aug 1921
SEX
Female
OCCUPATION
Kitchen Maid At A School
MARITAL STATUS
Single
SCHEDULE
37
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
3

Tom Christan
DOB
23 Apr 1900
SEX
Male
OCCUPATION
Steel Mill Roller Helper Heavy Worker
MARITAL STATUS
Married
SCHEDULE
37
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
1

Ethel Christan
DOB
26 Sep 1903
SEX
Female
OCCUPATION
Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS
Married
SCHEDULE
37
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
2

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Ref: RG101/3553I/004/27 Letter Code:
© Findmypast Ltd

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Oct 2018 21:25

Not enough info I,m afraid to identify your family

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 21:32

Is this your Dad?
Name: William T Rees
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1921
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 116
Residence Place: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Occupation: Clerk Iron & Steel Manufacture??
Schedule Number: 20
Sub Schedule Number: 5
Enumeration District: JFBD
Registration district: 535/1
Inferred Father: William Rees
Inferred Mother: Margaret Rees
Household Members:
Name
William Rees - Birth Date: 23 May 1876
Margaret Rees - Birth Date: 18 Mar 1883
Charles Taylor - Birth Date: 29 Jun 1894
Margaret Rees - Birth Date: 7 Apr 1913
William T Rees - Birth Date: 6 Jan 1921

Name: William Taylor Rees
Death Age: 67
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1921
Registration Date: Sep 1988
Registration district: Central Cleveland
Inferred County: Cleveland
Volume: 3
Page: 2058

Name: William Taylor Rees
Death Date: 4 Sep 1988
Death Place: Middlesbrough
Probate Date: 5 Dec 1988
Registry: Newcastle-upon-Tyne

Address: 62 Overdale Road

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 21:35

Name: William T Rees
Registration Date: 1921
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: North Yorkshire
Re-registration Year: 1921

Mother's Maiden Name: Taylor

Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 1096


Possible sibling
Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Rees Margaret Taylor Middlesbro 9d 1173


Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 21:38

Parents marriage

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)

Rees William Taylor Middlesbro 9d 1203
Taylor Margaret Rees Middlesbro 9d 1203

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 21:43

1911

Name: Margaret Taylor
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Morth Ormesby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
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County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding
Country: England
Street address: 168 Newport Rd
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: At Home
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Registration District Number: 535
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough West
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Piece: 29292
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Taylor 56
Margret Taylor 53
William Taylor 25
Margaret Taylor 28
Alexander Taylor 19
Charley Taylor 17
Janet Taylor 15
William Rees 35

........................

Name: William Rees
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stockton, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
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County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding
Country: England
Street address: 168 Newport Rd
**** Marital Status: Widowed ****

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 21:47

1901

Name: Margaret Taylor
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Robert Taylor
Mother: Margaret Taylor
Birth Place: Middlesbro, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4578
Folio: 159
Page Number: 9
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Taylor 47
Margaret Taylor 42
Margaret Taylor 18
William Taylor 16
Robert Taylor 14
Alexander Taylor 8
Charles Taylor 6
Juet Taylor 5


Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 21:54

possible for father William
1891
Name: William Rees
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1876
Father: William Rees
Birth Place: Stockton
Civil Parish: Normanby
Residence Place: South Bank, Normanby, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Ormesby
ED, Institution or Vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4017
Folio: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
William Rees 42 Birth Year: 1849 (Wales)
Edward John Rees 16
William Rees 15
Margt Anne Rees 14
Watkin Rees 10

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 21:57

1881

Name: William Rees
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Rees
Mother: Sarah Rees
Gender: Male
Where born: Thornaby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Thornaby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: No 2 Lyndurst St
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4863
Folio: 86
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
William Rees 33 - born: Cardiff
Sarah Rees 32 - born: Swansea
Edward Rees 6
William Rees 4
Margaret Rees 3
Richard Rees 0
.............................

Name: Sarah Rees
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 42
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 392
.............................

All the children have mothers maiden name as Lewis, so this looks to be the marriage of their parents:-

Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)

LEWIS Sarah Stockton 10a 174
REES William Stockton 10a 174

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 22:13

wondering if this was the first marriage of William


Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)

Rees William Middlesbro' 9d 1080
TAYLOR Sarah Middlesbro' 9d 1080

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
REES Sarah 27 Middlesbro' 9d 420

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 22:15

No siblings, so far, called Ethel so maybe she was the spouse of one of the brothers, either of William Rees or Margaret Taylor??

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Oct 2018 22:22

Birth of Margaret?

TAYLOR, MARGARET GILLESPIE
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 637

Can't find Taylor-Gillespie birth in 1886/7 for Uncle Bob, but this for Alexander:

TAYLOR, ALEXANDER GILLESPIE
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 540


Parents Marriage:

Marriages Sep 1876
GILLESPIE Margaret Middlesbro' 9d 735
Taylor Robert Middlesbro 9d 735


More on the marriage:

First name(s) Robert
Last name Taylor
Age Full Age
Residence Middlesbrough
Marriage year 1876
Marriage date 26 Jul 1876
Marriage place Middlesbrough
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret
Spouse's last name Gillespie
Spouse's age Minor
Spouse's residence Middlesbrough
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Taylor
Spouse's father's first name(s) James
Spouse's father's last name Gillespie
County Yorkshire (North Riding)
Country England
Archive reference PR/M/H/1-27

Robert ,labourer of full age son of William Taylor, Labourer.

Margaret a minor , daur of James Gillespie, labourer.

Witnesses

Hugh Shearer
Elizabeth H Shearer.

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2018 22:38

Richard aged 0yrs in 1881 and noted as WAtkin aged 10yrs in 1891

1901

Name: Richard W Rees
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Stepson
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Thornaby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Normanby
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Ecclesiastical parish: South Bank St John
Town: South Bank
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4585
Folio: 122
Page Number: 29
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret A Rees 30 - 1871 Birth Place: Welbury, Yorkshire (Widow)
Margaret A Rees 22 - Stepdaughter
Richard W Rees 20
Mary H Rees 8
Beatrice Rees 7
Gladys Rees 5
Sarah A Rees 2
Elsie Rees 9/12


possible second marriage for William Snr.

Name: William Rees
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 913
Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth Jones
*** William Rees
*** Margaret Smith
James Summerbell
..............

Birth record for Sarah A. Rees show mother's maiden name as Smith
REES, SARAH ANN SMITH Order
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 621
...........so looks as though marriage is correct.
...............................

As Margaret is widowed in 1901 this is a possible death for William Snr
Deaths Dec 1899 (>99%)
Rees William 52 Middlesbro' 9d 429

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Oct 2018 22:41

The 1901 census ( I know it's already been posted) shows Robert Taylor born Scotland:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

66, Marsh Street, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England

Robert Taylor Head Married Male 47 1854 Gantryman (Blastfurnace) Scotland
Margaret Taylor Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Margaret Taylor Daughter Single Female 18 1883 - Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
William Taylor Son Single Male 16 1885 Dray Driver (Mineral Water) Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Robert Taylor Son Single Male 14 1887 Dray Driver (Mineral Water) Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Alexander Taylor Son Single Male 8 1893 - Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Charles Taylor Son Single Male 6 1895 - Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Janet Taylor Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Port Clarence, Durham, England


The 1911 census shows Robert's birthplace to be Edinburgh.

Robert Taylor Head Married Male 56 1855 Gantry Man Leith Edinburgh

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Oct 2018 22:56

??????


Robert Taylor in 1861 in Edinburgh,born South LEITH, Edinburgh, father named William?

Name: Robert Taylor
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Son
Father's name: William Taylor
Mother's name: Janet Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: South Leith, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 54 West Port 5 Aitchisons Close
Occupation: Sch
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 58
LINE: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_124

Household Members:
Name Age
William Taylor 48
Janet Taylor 38
William Taylor 12
John Taylor 11
James Taylor 9
Robert Taylor 7
Alexander Taylor 6
George Taylor 5
David Taylor 2
Charles Taylor 8 Mo

Father is indeed a labourer as per Robert's marriage posted earlier.

Name: William Taylor
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Janet Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunning, Perthshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 5 Aitchisons Close
Occupation: Labourer


Name: Janet Taylor
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William Taylor
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 5 Aitchisons Close
ED: 10

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Oct 2018 23:35

???

Is there any way this could be your Ethel? if so, looks like she married or liased with two men, one probably the one she's living with in 1939....

Pratt Household (6 People) 1 Eldon Street , Thornaby-on-Tees M.B., Yorkshire

>>>Ethel Taylor (Pratt,Matson) 06 May 1894 Female Unpaid House Keeper Single 257 6
John W Pratt 17 Feb 1892 Male Iron Foundry Labourer Widowed 257 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Arthur R Pratt 13 Nov 1927 Male At School Single 257 3
Ada Birks (Pratt) 03 Sep 1929 Female At School Single 257 4


But if this is her, no idea why she isn't with the family in the censuses posted?

Catherine

Catherine Report 16 Oct 2018 12:37

Will send a pm to let Susan/Catherine know she has replies to make sure this is the correct family.