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Could someone please confirm for me if Hannah Welsh, born 1854 in Hulme with MMN:TOMLINSON is the child of Edward & Margaret walsh..

Have you looked for a marriage for the putative parents?

Have you looked for the family on a census?

Yes I have the parents marriage certificate for 1845 at Manchester cathedral

I am so sorry I meant to say 1845..(Without my specs on) tut...

Where did you find the birth?

Which century do you actually mean?

1861 - is this the family?

Name: Edward Welch
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Welch
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Piece: 2894
Folio: 82
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Welch 30
Margaret Welch 34
Sarah A Welch 6
William Welch 1
William Powell 40

Sorry I meant to say 1845

As she didn't survive, no way of knowing unless you buy certs

Deaths Jun 1854 (>99%)
Welsh Hannah Chorlton 8c 331

yes 1861 census is correct....There appears to be long gaps in the births of the children..I found the birth on Lancashire B M D

In 1845, the Edward on 1861 above would have been 14

Have you got the correct people?

The man who married in 1845 was of full age - i.e. at least 21

also, his occupation was 'Spinner'. The one on 1861 was a Slater's Labourer

I have Edwards death certificate for 1889 in salford His wife Margaret is the informant and she states his age as 67

Well, something doesn't tally

How did you get back to this couple?

A child of the 1845 marriage

Name: Margaret Ellen Walsh
Age: 0
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1847
Baptism Date: 25 Jul 1847
Baptism Place: Hulme, St George, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Manchester
Father: Edward Walsh
Mother: Margaret Walsh, formerly Tomlinson

Edwards occupation

A sibling?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
WALSH (boy) TOMLINSON Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/53/16

Sarah ann is the informant on her mother (Margaret's) Death certificate

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1855
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference

WELCH Sarah Ann TOMLINSON Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/66/13


One must assume that the age for Edward in 1861 is totally wrong

Doesn't answer your original query, but, as I said earlier, the only way to find out is to buy a cert

Possible

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference

WELCH William Boyce TOMLINSON Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/92/36