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I honestly don't think there is ANY connection. Nothing found by helpers on this thread gives any credence to the idea.

John Hearson's children have the name HEARSON

The only way Harry could be linked would be through a brother of Ann's, and, as has been demonstrated, his grandfather was George, and Ann didn't have a brother of that name

It looks to me that Harry Smith born 1918 could be related to William Hearson born 1878 as his mother (William's ) was Ann Smith born 1851 so Harry's father is one of John Hearson & Ann Smiths sons?
I will look further into this family

Ann Smith's parents were William Smith abt 1827 & Elizabeth Booth abt 1833
Thanks to you all for your input

Any thoughts on all the info posted?

Ann Smith's parents were William 1827 Arnold & Elizabeth ( Booth ) I think?
& possibly Elizabeth's father was a Samuel Booth?

Name: Sophia Shenton
Spouse: Wm Oscroft
Marriage Date: 1805
Parish: Arnold

No wonder I couldn't see the marriage!


Births Dec 1846 (>99%)
Stout Mary Ann Sophia Basford 15 422

GRO version with MMN
STOUT, MARY ANN SOPHIA OSCROFT
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 15 Page 422

NOW I can!

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
SMITH George Birmingham 6d 208
Stout Mary Ann S Birmingham 6d 208

SMITH, SARAH ANN STOUT
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 170

1861

Name: Sophia Stout
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: 1847
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 2443
Folio: 68
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Sophia Ascroft 73
Samuel Ascroft 47
Ann Ascroft 27
Sophia Stout 14

1851

Name: Sophia Stout
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Mathew Stout
Mother's name: Sarah Stout
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 2061
Folio: 20
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Mathew Stout 23
Sarah Stout 23
Sophia Stout 4
Margarett Stout 2
Sarah Stout 2 Mo

1871

Name: George Smith
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Spouse's Name: Sophia Smith
Father's name: Charles Smith
Mother's name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Arnold
Town: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 3493
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Smith 53
Mary Smith 58
George Smith 24
Sophia Smith 24
Annie Smith 11 Months

1851

Name: George Smith
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles Smith
Mother's name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Arnold
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 6d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 221
Piece: 2128
Folio: 207
Page Number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Smith 34
Mary Smith 37
George Smith 4
Saml Smith 1
Ann Rowth 15

SMITH, MATTHEW CHARLES STOUT
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 176

There isn't any record of a marriage for George Smith and Sophia Stout

William Hearson parents were John Hearson 1848 at Arnold & Ann Smith 1851 died 1908 at Arnold they married 1869 Basford, I do not know who her parents were

Frederick Henry Smith born 1881 mother was ? Stout

Neither of the Ann Smiths found above has a brother George as far as one can tell

1939 doesn't, as you know, record relationships.

Have you done any research yourself to determine whether there is a connection?

I would think it unlikely that there is one.

1901

(Robin Hood Inn), Church Street, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England


George Smith Head Married Male 54 1847 Inn Keeper Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Sophia Smith Wife Married Female 54 1847 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Annie Perkins Daughter Married Female 30 1871 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Frederick H Smith Son Single Male 20 1881 Plumber Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Arthur Smith Son Single Male 18 1883 Bricklayer Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Marguerite Smith Daughter Single Female 18 1883 School Teacher Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Mabel Smith Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Shop Girl Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
George Smith Son Single Male 11 1890 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Nelly Perkins Grand Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Radford, Nottinghamshire, England
Mabel Perkins Grand Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Thomas Martin Servant Married Male 32 1869 Brewer Nottinghamshire, England

1881

George Smith Head Married Male 34 1847 Carpenter And Furniture Maker Employing 1 Man & 2 Boys Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Sophia Smith Wife Married Female 34 1847 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Annie Smith Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Samuel Smith Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Mathew C Smith Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Mary E Smith Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Alfred G Smith Son Single Male 4 1877 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Frederick Smith Son Single Male 0 1881 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Harry's father

SMITH, FREDERICK HENRY (MMN) STOUT
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 202

?? Do you have the Smith/Turton marriage cert - who is named as his Father and occupation

England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

First name(s) FREDERICK HENRY
Last name SMITH
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1905
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™
FREDERICK HENRY SMITH married one of these people
Harriett Bacon, Fanny Turton
District Basford
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Volume as transcribed 7B
Page number 260

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1911 Census For England & Wales
Robin Hood Inn Church Street Arnold Nottinghamshire, Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Married 5 years 3 children born, 1 alive 2 have died

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick Henry Smith Head Married Male 30 1881 Licensed Victualer Arnold Notts
Fanny Smith Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Arnold Notts
Freda Mary Smith Daughter - Female 1 1910 - -
Herbert Mellor Servant Married Male 29 1882 Brewer Arnold Notts
Rose Scotton Servant Married Female 28 1883 Servant Hyson Green Nottm

Unfortunately no mention of Fathers here on freereg (or on FMP - Notts marriages)
County Nottinghamshire
Place Arnold
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 28 Jun 1869
Groom forename John
Groom surname HEARSON
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname SMITH
Transcribed by Laura Berry
Credit Laura Berry
File line number 2948

2 Ann Smith's born c 1851 and living Arnold.

The marriage certificate of John and Ann will name Fathers

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Top of Town, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Smith Head Married Male 24 1827 F W K Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Smith Wife Married Female 18 1833 F W K Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Smith - - Female 0 1851 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Day Brook, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Aaron Smith Head Married Male 29 1822 T W K Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Maria Smith Wife Married Female 25 1826 Seamster Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Smith Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)

Heaison John Basford 7b 142
Hearson John Basford 7b 142
Smith Ann Basford 7b 142