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Trying to find a Thomas Harvey who was the father of Frederick Harvey. Frederick Harvey was born at Wymondham in Norfolk according to the census about 1860/1861. All i know is when Frederick Harvey married his 2nd wife Laura Grange it stated that Frederick Harveys father was Thomas Harvey and that he was a cooper (made barrels etc). It stated on the marriage certificate that Thomas was deceased marriage was at Bintree in Norfolk on October 25th 1910. Was Thomas from Wymondham as well? I would be grateful for any help on this subject thank you.

You say you have his second marriage info
Who was his first wife ? Does he show on any census with her

Have you looked for/found Frederick on any censuses?

For INFO - is THIS your man?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
The Sand Hole, Lingwood, Blofield, Norfolk, England

Benjamin Lake Head Married Male 39 1842 Farm Labourer Lingwood, Norfolk, England
Emma Lake Wife Married Female 39 1842 Farm Labourer Wife Lingwood, Norfolk, England
Olive E Lake Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Lingwood, Norfolk, England
Florence M Lake Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Lingwood, Norfolk, England
Catherine B Lake Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Lingwood, Norfolk, England
Leslie W Lake Son Single Male 1 1880 - Lingwood, Norfolk, England
Frederick Harvey Boarder Single Male 21 1860 Brickmaker Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Isaac Harvey Boarder Single Male 18 1863 Brickmaker Wymondham, Norfolk, England

Frederick Harvey
Age:41
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1860
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Spouse:Harriet E Harvey
Birth Place:Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:Moulton
Ecclesiastical parish:Little Moulton St Mary

Town:Moulton
County/Island:Norfolk

Country:England


Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district:Blofield

Sub-registration district:South Walsham

ED, institution, or vessel:4

Neighbors:View others on page

Piece:1855

Folio:62

Page Number:25

Household schedule number:143

Household Members:
NameAge

Frederick Harvey 41
Harriet E Harvey 39
Sydney T Harvey 17
William W Harvey 16
Frederick F Harvey 14
Hilda M Harvey 12
Gladys L Harvey 6
Reginald G Harvey 7/12

Which would suggest this marriage:
Frederick Harvey
Registration Year:1881

Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Blofield
Parishes for this Registration District:
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Inferred County:Norfolk
Volume:4b
Page:330
Records on Page:
Name
William James Beckett
Clara Elizabeth Botwright
Frederick Harvey
Harriet Emma Lake <<<

1911
Royal Oak Bintree East Dereham, Bintree, Norfolk, England


Frederick Harvey Head Married Male 50 1861 Publican And Coal Merchant Wymondham Norfolk
Laura Harvey Wife Married Female 46 1865 Assisting In Business Little Snoring Norfolk
William Harvey Son Single Male 26 1885 Coal Carter Lingwood Norfolk
Reggiland Harvey Son - Male 10 1901 School Moulton Norfolk

HARVEY, REGINALD GEORGE LAKE
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in BLOFIELD UNION Volume 04B Page 209

Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)

Harvey Frederick Blofield 4b 330
LAKE Harriet Emma Blofield 4b 330


1891


Frederick Harvey Head Married Male 30 1861 Gardener Norfolk, England
Emma Harvey Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Norfolk, England
Sidney Harvey Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Norfolk, England
William W Harvey Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Norfolk, England
Frederick F Harvey Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Norfolk, England
Hilda M Harvey Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Norfolk, England

Very odd - no sign of either Frederick or Isaac before 1881 - anywhere, as far as I can see

Looks like he might have been lodging with first wife's relatives in 1881

Ancestry links to this (FMP version, as it is easier on the eye)

1861

Folley, Wymondham, Forehoe, Norfolk, England

Thomas Rudling Head Married Male 29 1832 Cooper Journeyman Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Lucy Rudling Wife Married Female 26 1835 - Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Robert Rudling Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 - Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Frederick Rudling Lodger Unmarried Male 1 1860 Son Of A Cooper Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Martha Heron Servant Unmarried Female 14 1847 Servant Wymondham, Norfolk, England



1871
Bell Rope Lane, Wymondham, Forehoe, Norfolk, England
George Heron Head - Male 50 1821 - Norfolk, England
Lucy Heron Wife - Female 37 1834 - Norfolk, England
Frederick Rudling Son-In-Law - Male 10 1861 - Norfolk, England
Jessie Rudling Son-In-Law - Male 7 1864 - Norfolk, England
George Heron Son - Male 3 1868 - Norfolk, England


No Frederick Rudling on any subsequent censuses

I have just ordered his first marriage certificate today. I want to know about Thomas Harvey. Thank you

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
RUDLING, FREDERICK PARSONS
GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in FOREHOE Volume 04B Page 175 Order
RUDLING, FREDERICK PARSONS
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in FOREHOE Volume 06C Page 175 Order
RUDLING, JESSIE PARSONS
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in FOREHOE Volume 04B Page 190

Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%)

Parsons Lucy Forehoe 4b 321
Rudling Thomas Forehoe 4b 321

We know who you asked about, but one has to work back.

We can't just 'hit' on an individual without knowing more about him/her

BTW When you get the cert, look for clues in the names of the witnesses.

Now that you've marked as answered, everyone will think you have no further need for assistance

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1841
Town Green, Wymondham, Forehoe, Norfolk, England
Jesse Harvey Male 25 1816 Norfolk, England -- cooper
Susan Harvey Female 25 1816 Norfolk, England
Thomas Harvey Male 9 1832 Norfolk, England
Anthony Harvey Male 7 1834 Norfolk, England
Susanna Harvey Female 2 1839 Norfolk, England
Mary Harvey Female 0 1841 Norfolk, England

1851
Town Green, Wymondham, Forehoe, Norfolk, England
Jesse Harvey Head Married Male 43 1808 Cooper Master Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Susan Harvey Wife Married Female 42 1809 Dress Maker Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Thomas Harvey Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Cooper's Apprentice Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Anthony Harvey Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Baker's Assistant Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Mary Ann Harvey Daughter - Female 9 1842 School At Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Eliza Harvey Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Wymondham, Norfolk, England
George Harvey Son - Male 4 1847 - Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Susan Harvey Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Wymondham, Norfolk, England

1871
Name: Thomas Rudling
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy Rudling
Gender: Male
Where born: Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Wymondham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Forehoe
Sub-registration district: Wymondham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 1223
Folio: 53
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Rudling 29 -- cooper journeyman
Lucy Rudling 26
Robert Rudling 8
Fredrick Rudling 1 --------------- 1860 wymondham
Martha Heron 14



robert rudling
1891
Robert Harvey
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1852
Spouse: Martha Harvey
Child: Peter Harvey
Albert Harvey
Laura Harvey
Annie Harvey
Birth Place: Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Attleborough
Residence Place: Attleborough, Attleborough, Norfolk, England
Sub registration district: Attleborough
ED, Institution or Vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 1549
Folio: 9

Confused how did Rudling become Harvey?

who knows but you want to some of the mis-spelling i have found in researching my tree :-)

Harvey became Rudling - became Harvey

One usually associates name changes with a marriage - or a criminal record.

Name: Lucy Rudling
[Lucy Parsons]
Gender: Female
Age: of full Age
Marriage Date: 19 Oct 1864
Marriage Place: Norwich, St Gregory, Norfolk, England
Father: Robert Parsons
Spouse: George Heron