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Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2018 14:11

in my keepsafe i have a photo of a headstone

mary patchett died 1/05/2013
john william patchett (spouse) died 3/11/1913
daughter elizabeth died 12/10/1883

also james who died 11 months --------------------

also john Wm died 6 months son of w and m patchett -----------------

John willliiam and mary schofield married 1872 in bradford and 1911 census states they had 9 children, two died. but headstone says 3 , so am a little confused
the surviving children are
Walter Patchett
1874–1917
Elizabeth Patchett
1876–1883
John Patchett
1877–1946
Willie Patchett
1881–1953
Harry Patchett
1882–1952
Newton Patchett
1887–1963
Ernest Patchett
1889–1948
Sarah Hannah Patchett
1889–1970


I have all the info on the family but can find no trace of the children who died.

Any help gratefully received.

thank you

maddie

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Nov 2018 14:26

When you mean no record of the children is this the births and death record ???

Do you have the dates for James and John William

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Nov 2018 14:26

Possible for James?

Births Dec 1884
Patchett James Bradford, Y. 9b 82

Deaths Mar 1885
Patchett James 0 Bradford, Y. 9b 43

Andy

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2018 14:37

sorry no dates for the children only what is on the headstone
thanks andrew, nothing on gro to confirm mothers mmd which is a nuisance

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Nov 2018 14:45

Could John wm be the son of another relative as it says son of W & M patchett

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Nov 2018 14:49

James GRO record

PATCHETT, JAMES BAINBRIDGE Order
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 82


PATCHETT, JAMES 0
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 43


Not seeing a marriage for Patchett /Bainbridge

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2018 14:49

he could be but jw only had one brother joe
don't hold much hope on this one :-(

Dea

Dea Report 2 Nov 2018 14:52

Is it possible to post a link to the keepsafe Maddie so that we can take a look at the actual photo please?

Thanks,

Dea x

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2018 14:55

thanks dea how do i do that sorry

Dea

Dea Report 2 Nov 2018 15:04

Open up your keepsafe picture and on the right hand side it gives you options for privacy - click open to everyone and save the change.

Then, copy and paste the url address at top of page (starts with https://genesre........)
- post that link on here and we will be able to click on it and see the photo.

Dea x

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2018 15:12

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/folder/contents/1

hope it works

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Nov 2018 15:15

That link only takes me to my own Keepsafe Maddie.

Kath. x

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2018 15:26

takes me to mine what am i doing wrong , privacy setting is open to everyone

maybe

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/82797697

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2018 15:31

Presume this is the marriage with Mary's surname spelt differently. Have you checked births with this variation?

Seems Patchett became Padgett on occasion?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
BEETHAM Jane Bradford, Y. 9b 215
Fieldhouse Pollard Bradford Y 9b 215
PATCHETT John William Bradford, Y. 9b 215 <<<<<<
Scholefield Mary Bradford, Y. 9b 215 <<<<<<<<



PATCHETT, WALTER SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 277 Order

PATCHETT, ELIZABETH SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 282 Order

PATCHETT, JOHN SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 292

Willie entered 3 times !!
PADGET, WILLIE SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 260 Occasional Copy: A Order
PADGET, WILLIE SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 260 Occasional Copy: A Order
PADGET, WILLIE SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 260 Occasional Copy: A

PADGET, HARRY SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 246

PATCHETT, NEWTON SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 256

PATCHETT, ERNEST SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 244

PATCHETT, SARAH HANNAH SCHOFIELD Order
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 244


8 births so far - one missing - yet you have James and John William on the headstone ??

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2018 15:35

The second keepsake url works

The child named John William is shown as son of W & M Patchett.

His name has not been added to the gravestone like Elizabeth and James, but to a base stone. Is he not part of immediate family.

Adult John William is referred to on the gravestone as John William not William so is it a different person?

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2018 15:44

i know can't make sense of it
are either child the missing one and i cant see either a jw or james in my tree who might fit

Elizabeth is one of the 2 that died and if jw belongs to someone else by elimination it must be james
thank you for looking

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2018 15:49

You obviously know where the grave is - could the Church or Cemetery records give you a date for burial to give an idea of the birth/death time frames??

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2018 16:06

sorrry i dont it was a photo posted by someone else on ancestry, they lived in Pudsey all their lives

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Nov 2018 17:10

Who did the son 'Willie' marry?

Or Walter?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Nov 2018 17:25

Walter married Martha Dickinson
Can't see any children..............

Willie

Name: Wellie Patchett
[Willie Patchett]
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1880
Age: 34
Document Year: 1914
Residence Place: 4 Rayner Terrace Low Town, Pudsey Near Leeds
Regimental Number: 17271
Regiment Name: Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire) Regiment
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 9
Other Records: Search for 'Wellie Patchett' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Wellie Patchett Self (Head)
Gertrude Hodson Spouse
Dorothy Frances Patchett Patchett Child
John Willie Patchett Patchett Child
Sarah Anne Patchett Patchett Child
Mary Elizabeth Patchett Patchett Child