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Here's another one for you. I've just looked at the birth of another sibling to Mary on ScotlandsPeople, this one for 'Benjamin' and I quote:

Banjamin daughter to James Brock and Isabella Embelton his wife born at High Belchristen?? 2 Dec 1825 and baptised 23 January 1826.

Have you ever heard of Banjamin being a girl's name or is this yet another item wrongly recorded?

Benjaman (sic) is listed as male on the 1841 census (already posted on page 2)

The mistake could be in either the baptism record or the census! Hard to know.

I've heard of Benjamina as a girl's name.

Benjaman/Banjamin isn't with his/her parents in 1851, 1861, or 1871.


As some of the other siblings seem to have married in Southwell reg district, I'm wondering about this one:

Marriages Mar 1849 (>99%)
Brock Bunney Southwell 15 835 ;
Hamblin Charles Southwell 15 835



Benny Hamblin
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Benny Hamblin
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles Hamblin
Where born: Scotland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Ordsall
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: East Retford
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 2416
Folio: 111
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hamblin 36
Benny Hamblin 35
Fanny Hamblin 12
Isabella Hamblin 10
Ann Hamblin 8
Robert Hamblin 6
Harriett Hamblin 4
Lucy Hamblin 2
Eliza Ann Hamblin 9/12

Benjamin Hamblin of North Tetbury, Gloucestershire, >>>>> WIDOW, <<<<<
died 24 October 1906. Probate London 14 December to Robert Hamblin, gentleman.
Effects £698 11s 10d.


Benjamin Hamblin
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Benjamin Hamblin
Death Date: 24 Oct 1906
Death Place: Gloucestershire, England
Probate Date: 14 Dec 1906
Registry: London, England


Benjamin Hamblin
in the Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1988
Name: Benjamin Hamblin (widow of Charles Hamblin) <<<<<<<<<<
Age: 81
Birth Year: abt 1825
Burial Date: 29 Oct 1906
Burial Place: Tetbury, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Tetbury


Benjamin Hamblin
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Benjamin Hamblin
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Tetbury
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 249

In 1881 and 1891 she's called Benjamina:

Benjamina Hamblin
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Benjamina Hamblin
Gender: Female
Age: 64
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1827
Spouse: Charles Hamblin
Child: Clara Hamblin
Charles Hamblin
Birth Place: Scotland
Civil Parish: Great Badminton
Residence Place: Great Badminton, Great Badminton, Gloucestershire, England
Sub registration district: Hawkesbury
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 1996
Folio: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hamblin 66
Benjamina Hamblin 64
Clara Hamblin 24
Charles Hamblin 22
Mabel Fuller 14


But in all the other censuses it's shortened to Benny or Benney:


Benney Hamblen
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Benney Hamblen
Age: 75
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Scotland
Civil Parish: Tetbury Upton
Ecclesiastical parish: Tetbury St Mary
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Tetbury
Sub-registration district: Tetbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 2445
Folio: 30
Page Number: 9
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members:
Name Age
Benney Hamblen 75
Charles Hamblen 32


And in 1871 on Ancestry, it's mistranscribed as Bumery !

Thanks AG … this family is driving me nuts!

It looks like you're onto something there. The Bunny/Benjamina/Benny in the various census have him/her born in Scotland which is where the birth was. It's not a 'for sure' but it does look like a 'more than likely'. What a mess … great job, thanks.

Personally, I think it's a definite!

But a copy of the marriage cert would confirm it - or not.

Duh … why didn't I think of that. I guess this family is just doing my head in.

Thanks, will do.

Just for the record, I got the marriage certificate for 'Benjamina' - not easy to read but it looks like 'Beennay Brock' on the certificate. She married Charles Hamblin on 14 Feb 1849.

And does it show that she is the right person - ie - James Brock's daughter?

Yes, it gives father as James Brock, Gamekeeper, and one of the witnesses is Ann Isabella Brock.. Residence at time of marriage is shown as Rufford.

Guess we can take this as a definite eh?

Thanks.