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Albert William Bodycoat B1883 Victoria Australia

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juliag

juliag Report 11 Jan 2019 04:48

My goodness you have given me a lot to think about. Thankyou so much for that, I had a couple of things which gel with what you are telling me.
Much appreciated
Will let you know how I put all of this together
Julia

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 16:43

According to trees, William had siblings:

Francis 1818, Charles 1820, Daniel 1825, and a sister Lydia who apparently died in 1825, per the trees.

Lydia's birth - though I don't see her death record so far:


Lydia Bodycoat
England Births and Christenings
Name Lydia Bodycoat
Gender Female
Christening Date 10 Feb 1825
Christening Date (Original) 10 FEB 1825
Christening Place TUR LANGTON,LEICESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Bodycoat
Mother's Name Mary


EDIT:

In fact, she didn't die then.
She married Henry Cossey.

Lydia Bodicote
England, Leicestershire Parish Registers
Name Henry Cossey
Event Type Marriage Banns
Event Date 18 Feb 1849
Event Place West Langton, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place Leicestershire,England,Langtons
Residence Place Tugby
Gender Male
Religion Anglican
Spouse's Name Lydia Bodicote
Spouse's Residence Place Tur Langton
Page Number 19
Record Number GBPRS/LEICS/BANNS/00168530/1
Affiliate Image Identifier http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2/GBPRS/LEICS/102630330/00028


Lydia Cossey
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Lydia Cossey
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Cossey
Gender: Female
Where born: Tur Langton, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Tugby
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Billesdon
Sub-registration district: Billesdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 2080
Folio: 48
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Cossey 24
Lydia Cossey 27
Sarah Bordigate 17 - niece [presumably mis-spelling of Bodycoat ]

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 16:29

Now I'm looking at the trees on Ancestry. There are actually a lot of them.
Most give his wife's name as Mary, and don't mention Elizabeth.
A few show both marriages.

A few say Mary Elizabeth.
Those tree owners seem unaware that he married twice. They give the first marriage as proof, and therefore presumably think Mary was sometimes known as Elizabeth, or that she had a middle name

A few say that William's parents were John Bodycoat (1784) and Mary nee Halliday (1785).

So this will be William's baptism:


William Bordycoate
England, Leicestershire Parish Registers
Name William Bordycoate
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 11 Aug 1811
Event Place West Langton, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place Leicestershire,England,Langtons
Religion Anglican
Baptism Date 11 Aug 1811
Father's Name John
Mother's Name Mary
Record Number GBPRS/LEICS/BAP/01564313
Affiliate Image Identifier http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2/GBPRS/LEICS/103474270/00021

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 16:23

Death of Thomas, father of Mary, Elizabeth, and Ann:

Deaths Mar 1844 (>99%)
GIBBINS Thomas Uppingham 15 544


The Bodycoat family emigrated shortly after that, as you know:

Joseph Badycoat
in the Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
Name: Joseph Badycoat
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Age: 7
Arrival date: 22 Sep 1844
Arrival Port: Port Phillip Bay, Australia
Departure Port: London Cork
Ship: Abberton
Nationality: English

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 16:20

Aunt Ann also emigrated to Australia:


Ann Gibbons
in the Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
Name: Ann Gibbons
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Age: 30
Arrival date: 20 Aug 1851
Arrival Port: Hobsons Bay and Port Phillip Bay, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Sea
Nationality: English

Native of Medburn, Leicestershire.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 16:17

Charlotte's baptism:


Charlotte Gibbins
England Births and Christenings
Name Charlotte Gibbins
Gender Female
Christening Date 07 Mar 1834
Christening Date (Original) 07 MAR 1834
Christening Place MEDBOURNE CUM HOLT,LEICESTER,ENGLAND
Mother's Name Mary Gibbins


So probably Charlotte in 1841, apparently with grandfather and aunt, judging by their ages:

Charlotty Gibbons
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Charlotty Gibbons
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Medbourne
Hundred: Gartree
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Uppingham
Sub-registration district: Great Easton
Neighbors:
Piece: 591
Book: 3
Folio: 8
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gibbons 60
Ann Gibbons 20
Charlotty Gibbons 7
William Bamford 20
Lucy Bamford 20

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 16:12

???

Mary Gibbins
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Mary Gibbins
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Blaston
Hundred: Gartree
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Uppingham
Sub-registration district: Great Easton
Neighbors:
Piece: 589
Book: 4
Folio: 4
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Gibbins 25 - servant
Benjamin Chapman 10 - servant

I don't think Benjamin is anything to do with Mary. They both seem to be servants in the household of Joseph and Elizabeth Fletcher.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 16:06

Looks like he then married Elizabeth's sister:


William Bodycoat
England, Leicestershire Parish Registers
Name William Bodycoat
Event Type Marriage Banns
Event Date 5 Dec 1841
Event Place West Langton, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place Leicestershire,England,Langtons
Residence Place Tur Langton
Gender Male
Religion Anglican
Spouse's Name Mary Gibbins
Spouse's Residence Place Medbourn
Page Number 16
Record Number GBPRS/LEICS/BANNS/00168516/1
Affiliate Image Identifier http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2/GBPRS/LEICS/102630330/00025


Marriages Dec 1841 (>99%)
BORDYCOATE William Uppingham 15 1241
GIBBINS Mary Uppingham 15 1241

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 16:01

His marriage to Elizabeth, assuming this is the right William:


William Bodycoat
mentioned in the record of William Bodycoat and Elizabeth Gibbins
Name William Bodycoat
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Gibbins
Event Date 21 Oct 1833
Event Place East And West, Church-Langton, Leicester, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jan 2019 15:02

No wife listed with William in 1841.
You already said Elizabeth died in 1840.

On the 1844 travel records, Mary's age is given as 31.

Thomas is listed as his stepson, while Joseph is his son, and Charlotte (10 or 11 depending on which record you look at) is his daughter.
That doesn't tie up with 1841 or the info in your post.
Presumably a mistake on the part of the shipping clerk.

All from Leicestershire.

I don't see a Mary with daughter Charlotte in 1841.

juliag

juliag Report 10 Jan 2019 12:13

HI, Thank you for this information. I have tried the trees but sadly I can't access them. Was there not a wife with William, it looks like she must have passed away before the Census
Julia

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jan 2019 12:35

William Bawdicoat
in the 1841 England Census
Name: William Bawdicoat
[William Bodycoat]
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Church Langton
Hundred: Gartree
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Market Harborough
Sub-registration district: Harborough
Neighbors:
Piece: 589
Book: 19
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bawdicoat 25
Thomas Bawdicoat 6
Joseph Bawdicoat 3


Two public trees on Ancestry have him and large numbers of relatives - but I have to go out now, so don't have time to investigate.
I don't know how well researched these trees are.

juliag

juliag Report 8 Jan 2019 06:17

I have a few of the Bodycoat family born in Leicestershire so perhaps someone might be able to help me with the 1841 census in England or anything else.
William Bodycoat born 1811 Leicestershire England, parents John Bodycoat and Mary Haliday. From what I gather William married an Elizabeth Gibbins not sure of the date but they had two children together Thomas b1834 and Joseph b1837 but he died in 1947 in Australia. Elizabeth died in 1840 Leicestershire .William then married Mary? They came over on assisted passage in 1844 with their three children, Charlotte I think was Mary's. I managed to find some information on photos and documents on Ancestry concerning Elizabeth and Mary but I cannot find them now which is a pity because they gave out a lot of information which would have helped me. I thought it was checking out William Bodycoat. I atill keep trying but cant find anything. Any help would be appreciated, I know ladies out there have given me a lot. Julia

juliag

juliag Report 7 Jan 2019 12:39

Thank you for the last few messages, shame about the Census as I wanted to find out earlier on the families of some of the Bodycoats
Regards Julia

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jan 2019 12:42

??? Taking one year at random (Eleanor is on ER for a number of years, at this and other addresses) -

With John Bodycoat, dairyman.


Eleanor Bodycoat
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Eleanor Bodycoat
Electoral Year: 1922
Subdistrict: Wallan Wallan
State: Victoria
District: Corio
Country: Australia
Residence Address: Epping, Home Duties, P


At another address in 1922 (Woodstock, Wallan Wallan) are these people:

Agnes Bodycoat, home duties
Arthur Bodycoat, farmer
Daniel Bodycoat, farmer
Ethel Bodycoat, home duties
William Bodycoat, farmer.

And at yet another address in 1922 ( Wollert, Wallan Wallan) are Margaret Ann and Phebe Lenora Bodycoat, both home duties.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 5 Jan 2019 12:17

No there are no census records available - early ones were destroyed and more recent ones are protected by the Privacy Act for 99 years.

Electoral roll might be helpful depending what years you are seeking.?

juliag

juliag Report 5 Jan 2019 00:27

Thank you Cherilyn, I certainly will. Can you get Australian Census as there is something there that I would like to check up on as I have a query with some family members that don't gel with what was on the Obituary which obviously is the correct one.
Happy New Year to you too.
Julia

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 31 Dec 2018 09:26

My pleasure, Julia :-) (and thank you, Dea!)

They are a very interesting family and there is certainly plenty more to be found. Let me know if you get stuck down the track.

Happy New Year!

juliag

juliag Report 31 Dec 2018 06:32

Cherilyn, how can I thank you for all this lovely information, my son-in-law is thrilled with everything you have found out and it has given me so much to work with. I really appreciate everything you have done.
Julia

Dea

Dea Report 30 Dec 2018 09:45

Cherilyn...........

What wonderful information you have found here for Julia - she is going to be absolutely thrilled.!

Well done!

Dea x