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Samuel Carr 1846/Hannah Worthington 1845

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greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Dec 2018 21:59

next few posts are speculation only based on area

so possibly her birth Reg. - Rochester is in the Uttoxeter RD

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

WORTHINGTON, HANNAH JACKSON Order
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in UTTOXETER Volume 17 Page 202 Order

WORTHINGTON, GEORGE JACKSON Order
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in UTTOXETER UNION Volume 17 Page 236

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which would be this marriage for parents -

Staffordshire Marriages

First name(s) James
Last name Worthington
Age Full Age
Marriage year 1842
Marriage date 17 Nov 1842
Marriage place Rocester, St Michael
Denomination Anglican
Residence Waterfall
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Worthington
Spouse's first name(s) Bessy
Spouse's last name Jackson
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's residence Quicksill
Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward
Spouse's father's last name Jackson
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D7204/1/5
Page 13
Register type Marriage
Record set Staffordshire Marriages

By Licence
He's a Miner, Father joseph a Farmer
She's a Servant, Father Edward also a Farmer

witnesses - John Ratcliffe and Hannah Jackson

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1842 (>99%)
BIRCH Martha Uttoxeter 17 233
GOULD William Uttoxeter 17 233
GUANT William Uttoxeter 17 233
HARPER Edward Uttoxeter 17 233
JACKSON Bessey Uttoxeter 17 233
JACKSON Harriett Uttoxeter 17 233
LOMAS Ann Uttoxeter 17 233
WORTHINGTON James Uttoxeter 17 233

Maybe just a coincidence there is a Birch also on that marriage record and one on the 1851 census with the Worthingtons

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Dec 2018 22:16

And the earlier census for Penelope Carr and family - no Samuel

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
None, Kingsley, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Carr Head Married Male 49 1802 Coal Miner Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Penelope Carr Wife Married Female 49 1802 - Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Carr Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Coal Miner Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
James Carr Son - Male 12 1839 Coal Miner Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Carr Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
George Carr Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Kingsley, Staffordshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Dec 2018 22:28

There is this Samuel Carr in the same area, a little older than his age would suggest when he died

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Primrose House, Kingsley, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Carr Head Married Male 31 1820 Coal Miner Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Eliza Carr Wife Married Female 30 1821 - Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Samuel Carr Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Jane Carr Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Carr Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Kingsley, Staffordshire, England

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CARR, SAMUEL HALL Order
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in CHEADLE Volume 17 Page 39

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Staffordshire Marriages

First name(s) William
Last name Carr
Age Full Age
Marriage year 1841
Marriage date 25 Dec 1841
Marriage place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Residence Kingsley
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Carr
Spouse's first name(s) Eliza
Spouse's last name Hall
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's residence Kingsley
Spouse's father's first name(s) Samuel
Spouse's father's last name Hall
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/12
Page 23
Register type Marriage

Banns read Nov 28th, Dec 5th and 12th

From image -
Bachelor and Spinster, he was a collier, Father a Collier and
she a Lace Maker, Father a Labourer
Witnesses - Francis Bentley and Mary Carr

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Staffordshire Baptisms

First name(s) Samuel
Last name Carr
Baptism year 1842
Baptism date 28 Aug 1842
Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Eliza
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/5
Page 151
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Dec 2018 22:40

Unfortunately also this Samuel Carr, also born Kingsley

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Union Workhouse, Lid Lane, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Samuel
Last name Carr
Relationship -
Marital status -
Sex Male
Age 9
Birth year 1842
Occupation Scholar
Birth place England
Birth town Kingsley
Birth town as transcribed Kingsley
Birth county Staffordshire
Birth county as transcribed Staffordshire
House name Union Workhouse
Street Lid Lane
Town Cheadle
Parish Cheadle
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Possibly this baptism

Staffordshire Baptisms

First name(s) Samuel
Last name Carr
Baptism year 1842
Baptism date 18 Sep 1842
Baptism place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Maria
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/5
Page 151
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms

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CARR, SAMUEL WEAWALL Order
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in CHEADLE Volume 17 Page 41

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bunting, Kingsley, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Maria Carr Head Widow Female 40 1811 - Kingsley, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Carr Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Coal Miner Kingsley, Staffordshire, England

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Staffordshire Marriages

First name(s) William
Last name Carr
Marriage year 1825
Marriage date 24 Apr 1825
Marriage place Kingsley, St Werburgh
Denomination Anglican
Residence Kingsley
Spouse's first name(s) Maria
Spouse's last name Wheawall
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's residence Kingsley
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1478/11
Page 32
Register type Marriage
Record set Staffordshire Marriages

original shows William is a Widower

witnesses George ?Alliner and Jane wheawall

nasus1978

nasus1978 Report 31 Dec 2018 15:39

Thank you! I'll persue the line that you've found for Hannah, see if I can find something to link them :-)
Samuel seems to be being a bit of a monkey! the DoB doesn't matter to me, I know they didn't set a lot of store by birthdates and things and sometimes the census got rounded up/down, etc so as long as its within 2-3 years of his DoB I'm happy, but it could be either of them really couldn't it? It gives me something to look into though so thank you!!
Thank you so much! :-D :-D