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Which one Meredith Bevan?

You still haven't commented on the Meredith Bevan findings

New thread started re William Davies
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1375182

It was correct that Margaret Jane Bevan married William Davies on 16th Dec 1890 in Pontypridd. I dont know what happened to William wasn't listed on 1911 Census as above. Hope you can help to find what happened to William Davies? Thanks your your big helps!

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Penygraig Terrace, Ynysybwl, Llanwonno, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Davies Head Married Male 36 1865 Coal Miner Overlooker Merthyr, Glamorganshire, Wales
Margaret Davies Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Breconshire, Wales
Annie B Davies Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Llanwonno, Glamorganshire, Wales
Ernest Davies Son - Male 7 1894 - Llanwonno, Glamorganshire, Wales
Elizabeth O Davies Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Llanwonno, Glamorganshire, Wales
William J Davies Son - Male 3 1898 - Llanwonno, Glamorganshire, Wales
Wyndham Davies Son - Male 2 1899 - Llanwonno, Glamorganshire, Wales
Mabel S Davies Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Llanwonno, Glamorganshire, Wales

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
DAVIES, ELIZABETH OLWEN BEVAN Order
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 532

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1911 Census For England & Wales
80 Bartlett St Caerphilly, Eglwysilan, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Jane Davies Head Married Female 39 1872 - Gwenddwr Breconshire
Elizabeth Olwen Davies Daughter Single Female 15 1896 - Ynysbwl Glamorgan
William Ivor Davies Son - Male 13 1898 School Ynysbwl Glamorgan
Mabel Sophia Davies Daughter - Female 10 1901 School Ynysbwl Glamorgan
Hilda Maud Gwendoline Davies Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Ynysbwl Glamorgan
Winifred May Davies Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Ynysbwl Glamorgan
James John Morris Boarder Single Male 34 1877 Haulier Underground Knighton Radnorshire

Margaret married 20 years, 11 children born - 8 still living, 3 have died

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
DAVIES, WINIFRED MAY BEVAN Order
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 612 Order

Anything to say about all the information already found?? Do you think it may be your family or not.

You've marked the thread as answered but are still asking questions, no-one else is looking in to help. Try altering your heading adding along the lines of - more help needed please. it's a quirk of the site - marks the whole thing as answered, not just one particular part and can;t be undone.

IF you've decided the right family has been found - (check on ancestry tree after finding these records indicate I'm on the right track)

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Working backwards got me to this marriage (one male name missing), will post in order going forward.

You need the marriage certificate for Father's name to confirm correct Margaret

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
Bevan Margaret Pontypridd 11a 950
Davies William Pontypridd 11a 950
Evans Catherine Pontypridd 11a 950

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1891 - at the same address but different households - the newly married Margaret Jane and listed as visiting the other household her sister Elizabeth Ann (transcribed as Bearon rather than Beavan/Bevan). Both seem to have "lost" a couple of years age wise.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
42 Augusta Street, Llanwonno, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Oliver Y C Fear Head Married Male 31 1860 Coal Miner Window Pit Somerset, England
Elizabeth Fear Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Glamorganshire, Wales
Evan Fear Son Single Male 8 1883 Scholar Glamorganshire, Wales
Hugh C Fear Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Glamorganshire, Wales
Frederick H Fear Son Single Male 5 1886 Scholar Glamorganshire, Wales
Elizabeth Ann Bearon Visitor Single Female 21 1870 - Gwenddwr, Breconshire, Wales<<<<<<<

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Davies Head Married Male 26 1865 Coal Miner Window Pit Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Margaret Davies Wife Married Female 19 1872 Gwenddwr, Breconshire, Wales<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I believe Margaret Jane Davies (nee Bevan) got a daughter Winifred May Davies. I was told that they live in a farm up north Wales in 1904?

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) Meredith
Last name Bevan
Birth year 1845
Birth date ? ? 1845
Baptism year 1845
Baptism date 26 Oct 1845
Place Gwenddwr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Meredith
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Page 26
Record set Breconshire Baptisms

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The Ancestry tree says Mother Elizabeth was nee Jones, citing this record -

Breconshire Marriages And Banns

First name(s) Meredith
Last name Bevan
Birth year -
Event year 1835
Banns year -
Marriage year 1835
Marriage date 14 Aug 1835
Marriage place Gwenddwr
Residence Gwenddwr
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Jones
Spouse's birth year -
Spouse's residence Gwenddwr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage

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Margaret Jane b 1869 daughter of Meredith b 1845
Meredith Bevan son of Meredith Bevan b c1793

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Never believe other people's trees without seeing proof of what they claim. you need certificates to prove each generation before rushing further back.

And if asking for help start at known proven facts i.e. Marjorie Jane who you say in your PM is "yours"

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Village of Gwenddwr, Gwenddwr South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meredith Bevan Head Widower Male 68 1793 Retired Inn Keeper Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales
Meredith Bevan Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Scholar Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales


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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Unicorn Inn, Gwenddwr South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meredith Bewan Head Married Male 58 1793 Victualler Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales
Elizabeth Bewan Wife Married Female 49 1802 Wife Alltmawr, Brecknockshire, Wales
Thomas Bewan Son - Male 13 1838 Scholar Brecknockshire, Wales
Meredith Bewan Son - Male 5 1846 - Brecknockshire, Wales

PM from Doreen -

I found this Bevan Family Tree on website https://www.geni.com/family-tree/canvas/6000000011514581533 so I thought I can ask this message centre to see if they can help.

Our was Margaret Jane Bevan, believe she married to a man's surname Davies. Her parents Meredith 1848 and Anne 1850.

I cant go further since John 1802 and Mary Bevan 1804

Thank you so much for your big helps

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I think that tree may well be wrong - does anyone else think I might be on the right track? (An Ancestry tree has the same as me - looks to be well researched, but I didn't look until after I'd researched myself)

SO -

Working backwards - Margaret Jane Bevan with parents (posted earlier)

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Unicorn Inn, South Gwenddwr, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meredith Bevan Head - Male 24 1847 - Breconshire, Wales
Ann Bevan Wife - Female 21 1850 - Radnorshire, Wales
Elizabeth Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Breconshire, Wales
Margaret Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Breconshire, Wales

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BEVAN, MARGARET JANE THOMAS Order
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 11B Page 95 Order

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Breconshire Marriages And Banns

First name(s) Meredith <<<<
Last name Bevan
Age Full
Birth year -
Event year 1867
Banns year -
Marriage year 1867
Marriage date 02 Feb 1867
Marriage place Gwenddwr
Father's first name(s) Meredith <<<<<<
Father's last name Bevan
Spouse's first name(s) Anne
Spouse's last name Thomas
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's birth year -
Spouse's father's last name Thomas
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas

the Ancestry tree has a copy of the actual marriage certificate.

Meredith is shown as a Carpenter - matches 1881 census, not posted here, when he's shown as an Innkeeper and Carpenter.
witnesses John Jones and Jane Thomas

There is this baptism of a David Bevan - a bit older than the 1851 census suggests

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) David
Last name Bevan
Birth year 1800
Birth date ? ? 1800
Baptism year 1800
Baptism date 25 Dec 1800
Place Gwenddwr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Meredith
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Page 2

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%)
Bevan Meredith Builth 11b 137
Thomas Anne Builth 11b 137


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Unicorn Inn, South Gwenddwr, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meredith Bevan Head - Male 24 1847 - Breconshire, Wales
Ann Bevan Wife - Female 21 1850 - Radnorshire, Wales
Elizabeth Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Breconshire, Wales
Margaret Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Breconshire, Wales

Meredith recorded as Innkeeper born Gwenddwr

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BEVAN, ELIZABETH ANN THOMAS Order
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 11B Page 95

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Living next door to (related or coincidence?)

Ann Bevan aged 68 Head of house an AG. Lab's widow b LLanavon
Jane Bevan 25 Daughter b Llanvechan
John Bevan 8 grandson b Altmawr?
James Bevan 2 grandson b Gwenddwr

The Meredith Bevan family who baptised Thomas 1839

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gwenddur Village, Gwenddwr, South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Meredith Bevan Male 50 1791 Breconshire, Wales Innkeeper
Elizabeth Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales
Thomas Bevan Male 3 1838 Breconshire, Wales

1841 already posted, along with 1851 for same family.

If you can decide who it is you are looking for, then I'll try to help further - what relationship is John Bevan to whom!

Sorry can't look for everything all at once !!

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) Meredith
Last name Bevan
Birth year 1827
Birth date ? ? 1827
Baptism year 1827
Baptism date 25 Nov 1827
Place Gwenddwr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) David
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Page 19

also showing -with parents David (Shoemaker) and Mary - at Gwenddwr
Mary Beavan -26.4.1829
Evan Bevan - 28.10.1832
Elizabeth - 3.2.1839 - shows Father as first name Davis on transcript but same person
Jane - 7.10.1841

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On same page as Elizabeth in OPR there is this baptism on 10.2.1839
Thomas son of Meredith (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth Bevan of Gwenddwr, so not the ones you're looking for but maybe a family member

Thanks Greyghost

This one is correct. No sign of John Bevan 1802 on this census? And also Any sign of John 1802 or Mary 1806's parents?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gwenddur Village, Gwenddwr, South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Mary Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales
Meredith Bevan Male 13 1828 Breconshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Female 11 1830 Breconshire, Wales
David Bevan Male 9 1832 Breconshire, Wales
Evan Bevan Male 8 1833 Breconshire, Wales
Jane Bevan Female 0 1841 Breconshire, Wales
Elizabeth Bevan Female 2 1839 Breconshire, Wales
David Davies Male 22 1819 Breconshire, Wales

Can you confirm if Meredith Bevan 1848 and wife mary 1850 were the Unicorn Inn keepers in Gwenddwr, Builth?

Thanks for your helpings

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Erwood, Crickadarn, Builth, Radnorshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Bevan Head Married Male 47 1804 Shoemaker Breconshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Wife Married Female 46 1805 - Breconshire, Wales
Merdith Bevan Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 - Breconshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 - Breconshire, Wales
David Bevan Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Work Man Breconshire, Wales
Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Breconshire, Wales
Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Breconshire, Wales
Elenor Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Breconshire, Wales
Meredith Bevan Grand Son - Male 2 1849 - Breconshire, Wales

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BEVAN, ANN DAVIES Order
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 277

BUT ??

BEVAN, ELEANOR EVANS Order
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 299

Sorry I was told that it was Mary 1806 not Anne, sorry I was mistake.

John Bevan 1804 and Mary 1806 from Builth. Who were their parents in 17th century?

Their children

Meredith Bevan 1828
Mary Bevan 1830
David Bevan 1832 m Mary 1828
Evan 1833 m Jane (Morgan)
John and Jane (twins?) 1841

I believe their grandson Meredith Bevan 1848 and spouse Ann 1850 were innkeeper at Unicorn Inn, Gwenddwr near Builth. Is this correct?

Marriage posted by safc - John BEAVAN Bachelor and Anne Lewis Spinster married by Banns with consent of Parents.

John has signed Bevan, Anne has made her mark.

witnesses - David Evans and Rees Price

A couple of possibles for Anne -

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) Anne
Last name Lewis
Birth year 1800
Birth date ? ? 1800
Baptism year 1800
Baptism date 13 Sep 1800
Place Llanafan Fawr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Rees
Mother's first name(s) Mary Lewis
Page 38

From image - Anne the Illegitimate daughter of Rees Lewis of ?Fronwen and Mary Lewis - de ?Tynowydd

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Or this one with parents Jane and Benjamin (names of two of John and Anne Bevan's children)

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) Anne
Last name Lewis
Birth year 1802
Birth date ? ? 1802
Baptism year 1802
Baptism date 05 Dec 1802
Place Llanafan Fawr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Benjamin
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Page 40

image - Anne the daughter of Benjamin Lewis by Jane his wife - can't read the last 3 words - ? de Cefu Uippa ??????

Or it must be John Bevan 1804 and Mary? 1802 from Builth

Their children

Meredith Bevan 1828
Mary Bevan 1830
David Bevan 1832 m Mary 1828
Evan 1833 m Jane (Morgan)
John and Jane (twins?) 1841

I believe their grandson Meredith Bevan 1848 and spouse Ann 1850 were innkeeper at Unicorn Inn, Gwenddwr near Builth.

I'm looking for John Bevan 1804 and Mary 1802 their parents? Hope anyone can help?