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William was a gold engraver according to the 1861 and 1871 census, born in Shoreditch and living in Poplar, London. He is recorded as Lamantyne in 1861, but I have failed to find him in previous or later censuses. His wife and daughter (born 1871) were both called Emma. There is a baptism in Shoreditch in 1848 for a William Lamendin, but born 1823. His daughter, Emma married my grandfather's uncle.

I am hoping to connect these Lamendins with a Charles Lamandy, a weaver from Bethnal Green who died in 1762. He married Martha Vandersteen, a widow, previously married to Bartholomew Vandersteen, also a weaver. Bartholomew is from another branch of my family. Does anyone have access to records that would fill the gap between Charles Lamandy and William Lamendin, please?

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Record Transcription:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

51, Brooksbys Walk, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England


Emma E Lamendin

Record: Census Record

Location: London & Middlesex, England

Year of census: 1871
Emma Lammindon's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Emma Lammindon Head Widow Female 39 1842 Laundress Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Emma Lammindon Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Bow, Middlesex, England
Kate Lammindon Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Bow, Middlesex, England
Caroline Lammindon Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Mile End, Middlesex, England
Joseph Watts Brother Single Male 29 1852 Railway Porter Shoreditch, Middlesex, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
James Tyser Boarder Single Male 35 1846 Railway Collector Barking, Essex, England

Deaths Mar 1876 (>99%)
Lamendin William 38 Barnet 3a 124

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
LAMENDIN William Hackney 1b 610
Watts Emma Elizabeth Hackney 1b 610

Could William have been working out of area -

Deaths Mar 1876 (>99%)
Lamendin William 38 Barnet 3a 124

William Lemendine
in the 1851 England Census
Name: William Lemendine
[William Lamendin]
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Clerkenwell
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 81
Piece: 1516
Folio: 145
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
James Holliday 27
Mary Ann Holliday 28
James Piggott Holliday 3
George Holliday 1
William Lemendine 17 - apprentice engraver

The 1861 referred to -

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
18, Prospect Place, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Henry Marzette Head Married Male 39 1822 Foreman London Books St George in the East, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Marzette Wife Married Female 40 1821 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
James F Marzette Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Rivet Bootmaker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Edward H Marzette Son Unmarried Male 14 1847 Rivet Bootmaker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
William C Marzette Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Rivet Bootmaker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Caroline E Marzette Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Amelia E Marzette Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Louisa S Marzette Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Lucy J Marzette Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Amy E Marzette Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Emma C Marzette Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Alice P Marzette Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
William Lamantyne Lodger Unmarried Male 26 1835 Gold Engraver Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Charles Lamandy
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 21 October 1722 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
spouse: Frances Vandersteen

Chas. Lamandy
mentioned in the record of Bartholomew Lamandy





Name: Chas. Lamandy
Sex: Male
Son: Bartholomew Lamandy
Other information in the record of Bartholomew Lamandy
from England Deaths and Burials

Name: Bartholomew Lamandy
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 06 Feb 1737
Burial Place: St Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England
Father's Name: Chas. Lamandy

Bit of a mess in 1851 with his name -

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Northampton Street, Clerkenwell, London & Middlesex, England

William Lewiendine's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Holliday Head Married Male 27 1824 Engraver Canterbury, Kent, England
Mary Ann Holliday Wife Married Female 28 1823 - Rochester, Kent, England
James Piggott Holliday Son Unmarried Male 3 1848 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
George Holliday Son Unmarried Male 1 1850 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
William Lewiendine Apprentice Unmarried Male 17 1834 Engraver Apprentice Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

William Lamendin
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: William Lamendin
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1869
Marriage Place: St John of Jerusalem, South Hackney, Hackney, England
Father: Francis Lamendin
Spouse: Emma Elizabeth Watts
Register Type: Parish Register

Image shows -
Married by Banns 25.12.1869
Both of full age
He's a Bachelor - an engraver residing in south Hackney. Father Francis Lamedin a Walking Stick Maker
She's a Spinster also of South Hackney, Father Richard Watts a ?(Crape) Dresser
Both signed
Witnesses ?( Hammend) Watts and Hannah ?(Vicat)

Ancestry's 1851 transcription gives name as Lemendine - see above.
Not as bad as FMP !

No idea if this is anything to do with the family - but comes up amongst many others as suggested Records when inputting Francis Lamendin

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 No Image

Name: Francois Lamendin
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1782
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1782
Baptism Place: LA Patente French Huguenot,Spitalfields,London,England
Father: Jean Baptiste Lamendin
Mother: Marie Alsbrey
FHL Film Number: 0466704 IT 3-7
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This one is written in French on the original -

François Lamandin
in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970

Name: François Lamandin
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1782
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Jean Br Lamendin
Mother: Marie Alsbrey
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1782
Baptism Place: Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Denomination: French Protestant
Piece Title: Piece 4596: Eglise de la Patente, Brown's Lane, Spitalfields (French Protestant), 1759-1785

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Name: Francis Lamendin
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1818
Marriage Place: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Jones
Register Type: Parish Register

Image shows she was a Widow.
Both signed
Witnesses - William ?? and James ??

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Francis Lamendine
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917

April 22nd 1832

Name: Francis Lamendine
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Lamendine
Child: Louisa Matilda Lamendine born 23 Feb 1832

Also same day - son George born 14 April 1830

Of Curtain Road
Francis a Carman

Text only - no image, no date

Francis Lamendin in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Francis Lamendin
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth
Child: William Lamendin

William Lamendin

Record: Civil Marriage & Divorce Record

Location: London, England

Year of marriage: 1869

James William Lamendin


First name(s) William
Last name Lamendin
Gender Male
Birth year 1823
Birth place -
Baptism year 1848
Baptism date 13 Dec 1848
Place Shoreditch
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) Francis
Father's last name Lamendin
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

I keep looking at this one and wondering why Elizabeth has 2 children called James with her - could it be a mistake and the younger one is your William?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bonners Street, St Matthew Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

James Lemontine's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Elizabeth Lemontine Female 55 1786 Middlesex, England - Green Grocer
James Lemontine Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England - labourer
George Lemontine Male 11 1830 Middlesex, England
James Lemontine Male 8 1833 Middlesex, England


Dea x

Elizabeth Lemonitine
in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003
Name: Elizabeth Lemonitine
Age: 98
Record Type: Death
Birth Date: abt 1783
Death Date: 22 Jan 1881
Death Poor Law Union: Shoreditch
Death Place: Shoreditch, Hackney, England

To all those very kind genealogists who have answered so quickly - a very big thanks indeed. Your work will speed up my work immeasurably on this very difficult surname, and not only does it give me additional information on the 'main line', but all those siblings give me probably years of work ahead! There are obviously several branches of this family, and plenty of work to do. I can't believe how quickly you have all replied, and maybe I can help some of YOU in the future. Thanks again.