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Frank Batty born. Kingston-upon-Hull

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ErikaH Report 28 Apr 2019 09:42

Apologies for duplication. Didn’t notice the other post.


ArgyllGran Report 27 Apr 2019 15:30

Looks good - and fits with the ER dates.


Rambling Report 27 Apr 2019 15:03

burial register summary
last name
first names
burial date
18 March 1958
Kensington And Chelsea


ArgyllGran Report 27 Apr 2019 14:34

Yes, that one was posted by Rose a couple of days ago.

I don't see any Frank/Francis Batty living in Marylebone on ERs, so it's a possibility.


ErikaH Report 27 Apr 2019 14:08

If the person registering this didn't know him very well..................

The age fits.

First name(s) FRANCIS
Last name BATTY
Gender Unknown
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1876
Age 82
Death quarter 1
Death year 1958
District Marylebone
County London
Volume 5D
Page 443


Rambling Report 27 Apr 2019 13:46

Very much a guess but not finding any matching birth for Maisie, there are a couple of Maisies in Kensington in the electoral rolls for 1938 eg Byrne and O'Rourke who don't appear in the 1939 register or to have married. 'If' as the name suggests they were Irish they might have gone back home after the war had started? Not that this helps with Frank!


ArgyllGran Report 27 Apr 2019 12:30

A third possible death is the 1958 Marylebone one posted by Rose.

But if we discount the Bury one, that seems to bring it down to Hull 1957 or Marylebone 1958


Rambling Report 27 Apr 2019 12:15

same Frank in Bury 1939 so probably the Bury death is his.

Batty household

Frank Batty 24 Apr 1875 Male Fish & Chip Business Own Married 229 1
Eliza A Batty 14 Jan 1877 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 229 2
Elizabeth Batty 14 Aug 1897 Female Kitcher Maid - Large Retail St Single 229 3
Caroline Bland (Batty) 27 Nov 1903 Female Drawer Cotton Spinning Single 229 4


Rambling Report 27 Apr 2019 12:06

1911 Census For England & Wales
9 Clarence Street Market Harborough, Great Bowden, Leicestershire, England

Frank Batty Head Married Male 35 1876 Rubber Worker Mill Hand Hyde Cheshire
Eliza Amor Batty Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Woodley Cheshire
John William Batty Son - Male 14 1897 Twine Maker Woodley Cheshire
Elizabeth Batty Daughter - Female 13 1898 School Woodley Cheshire
Florence Batty Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Woodley Cheshire
Caroline Batty Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Hyde Cheshire


Rambling Report 27 Apr 2019 12:03

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, Hyde Road Pine Street, Bredbury, Stockport, Cheshire, England

Frank Batty Head Married Male 25 1876 Tyre Rubber Worker Hyde, Cheshire, England
Eliza A Batty Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Woodley, Cheshire, England
John A Batty Son - Male 4 1897 - Woodley, Cheshire, England
Elizabeth Batty Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Woodley, Cheshire, England
Florence Batty Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Woodley, Cheshire, England


Rambling Report 27 Apr 2019 11:54

The Frank Batty in Stockport married Eliza Ann Bowker 1896 ( she was born 1878 as far as I can see) but they seem to disappear also lol

GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 20
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 11
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 23
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 7

John W 1896

The 2 Hannahs died as babies


ArgyllGran Report 27 Apr 2019 11:27

We know he didn't die in the Blitz, as he was still at 25 Lockton Street in 1955.

He'd left there by 1958, which seems to be the next record of Lockton Street, Kensington, on the ER, at least per Ancestry.

If his birth was definitely in 1875, and not 1895, by 1955 he was 80.

The only death I can see after 1955, of the right age, is this one:

Deaths Jun 1965 (>99%)
BATTY FRANK 90 Bury 10b 794

As he was estranged from his family, I suppose he could have been living anywhere - but there was a Frank Batty born 1875 in Stockport, so maybe that's his death.


Or maybe this one, which may be more likely re location - if the informant thought his name was really Francis:

Deaths Mar 1957 (>99%)
BATTY Francis 83 Hull 2a 220

(Apologies if already posted. I thought someone had already posted this death, but now I can't see it on the thread.)


ErikaH Report 27 Apr 2019 09:15

So the info up to the marriage to Sophia is the right man and was already known. As were the names of their children!

Rambling asked in her very first response if you knew his parents’ names........

Maisie is a name in its own right.

No proof he was married to her.


Scott Report 27 Apr 2019 02:16

Thank you all for your time and interest Here is an update I have been in touch with Adrian Batty who's grandfather it is who we are looking for Frank Batty b. 2/10 /1875 13 Kirby Street Hull m. Sophie Biddy b. 1874 Newcastle They had 2 children George Edward Boyd Batty 1896-1972 and Francis Batty 1898-1900. Sophie died 1908.Then Frank disappears. and then turns up again on 1939 census m. to Maisie Batty mmn. Not Known. Not sure what Maisie could be short for. Sorry did not expect you all to be so kind Thank You Frank's father was Daniel Batty and his mother Elizabeth Stokell.


ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2019 14:48

Until the OP gives answers about the info posted for the one born 2/10/1875, we're simply guessing

As she has records from her friend's grandfather, there must be more known about him than we've been told.


Rambling Report 25 Apr 2019 13:58

True but the birth year is only as good as the informant's knowledge.

Probably not the right one anyway, if the marriage in 1933 is them, ( edit no it isn't) but it's all guess work without more info on who his parents were.

Deaths Mar 1981 (>99%)

This is that couple in 1939 albeit the birth date for Florence is a day out,

Batty Household (4 People)
2 Ejector Works Cotttages Churchdale Road , Eastbourne C.B., Sussex, England

Florence Batty 09 Apr 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 317 2
Frank Batty 01 Oct 1894 Male Sewage Works Manager Married 317 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Jean E Batty 09 Aug 1926 Female At School Single 317 4

Jean's mmn Goodwin

marriage Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
Batty Frank Goodwin Leicester 7a 705
Goodwin Florence Batty Leicester 7a 705


ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2019 13:40

A person born in October 1895 would not be 72 until October 1967


Rambling Report 25 Apr 2019 12:49

There's a probate 1967 Frank Batty admin to widow Florence,

I've not looked for more info on marriage etc, age at death would match the original birth year given

Deaths Sep 1967 (>99%)
Batty Frank 72 Eastbourne 5h 243


ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2019 09:16

What are you trying to find out?

Is the marriage to Sophia the right man? One assumes that the person who asked you to get help has some info about the man’s parents, at least


Scott Report 25 Apr 2019 01:58

Thank you all for your time and interest I'm still No wiser I will. take your comments and study them for a while. Thanks again.