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Bridget Burke born 1837 Dunmore Co Galway Ireland married Thomas Flanagan in 1874 in Leigh Lancashire.
Their son John Flanagan born 1876 Leigh Lancashire married Margaret Ann O'Neill, daughter of Patrick O'Neill born 1850 Killbannon county Galway and married to Margaret Carney
I think this could have been the bridget burke on Patrick O'Neills brother
James O'Neill born 1853

Not sure what the info helps me with though

So my connection to James O'Neill c1821 is wait for it

He is the great grandfather of the husband of the sister in law of the 1st cousin 1x removed

!!!!

So my cousin patrick ( we'll call him paddy) has james O'Neill snd margaret waters in his tree.

Paddy is the grand nephew of wife of great grandson of James O'Neill

Waited for my relative to come back from holiday and he confirmed he had James o'neill married to Margaret waters in his tree.

My relative is my Patrick mullowney and he is my 2nd cousin 1x removed

My grandad John o'neill b 1875 was brother to his great grandad Patrick oneil b 1880

Their parents were Patrick O'Neill b1850 married to Margaret Carney

Oh I see. Gosh you are so clever
Thank you
Linda x

The one who married Margaret Waters was too old (born c 1813) to be 'our' Patrick's brother but he could possibly have been his uncle i.e. a brother of the father Patrick ??

Will take a further proper look tomorrow............

Dea x

Dea

The other James O'Neill that you found who married Margaret Waters is he no longer in the running as a brother of Patrick ?

Linda x

nothing for the name Mullone

Linda x

I have nothing on any one with the surname Burke

Linda x

Dea that's amazing. It says they searched the cart. Patrick O'Neill was a hawker/rag dealer so he would have a cart.
Wonder how he could afford to have someone defending him.
I think this is our Patrick

Thank you
Linda x

I found it in the newspapers on Findmypast - If you don't have access I have saved it to 'keepsafe' on here.

You can look at it via this link:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/95071895

Dea x

Dea could you possibly send me the link to that article or tell me where to find it
Thank you
Linda x

They were both fined - 10s. each plus costs.

Dea x

I cant express how amazed i am in how you find all this information.
Dea you never give up.
Thank you everyone for helping.
Would love to find out what the outcome of Patrick and James arrest was
Thanks once again
Linda x

Thank you <3

Dea x

Dea…..Will be away to Killbannon as we speak see what I can find..!

Thanks Eringobragh1916.

Are you able to find anything on a baptism for Patrick c 1849, hopefully a son of Patrick O'Neil and Mary Mullone. - He was born in Killbannon, Co. Galway.

Can you see a marriage for Patrick O'Neil Snr. and Mary Mullone anywhere please?

Dea x

Re Bridget Cope 1891 Census....

Bridget Cope was previously married to an Elijah Barlow (16th March 1856) They married in Sheldon Stoke on Trent. He was the son of William Barlow and she the daughter of John McDermott....both lived Castle St.
Elijah died in 1866...

Bridget McDermott Barlow married John Cope (son of James Cope) 1866 in Hanley.

Now then - I have absolutely no proof that there is any connection whatsoever here but I will post what I have found:

An article I saw in the newspaper for a Patrick O'Neil and his brother James:

THE CHRONICLE, FRIDAY, JUNE 15, 1883.
Newton Petty Sessions, Saturdey, Patrick end James O'Neil, brothers, residing in Bedford, were charged with stealing quantity brass and old iron, the property of Andrew Brown, Earles town, James O'Neil pleaded guilty, and Patrick was defended by Mr. Bnckley............
15 June 1883 - Leigh Chronicle and Weekly District Advertiser - Lei



I found a marriage of a James O'Neil who had a father Patrick, a farmer, just the same as 'our' Patrick:

Marriage: 26 Oct 1879 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James O'Neil - (X), 27, Collier, Bachelor, Spring Gardens
Phoebe Barlow - (X), 21, Spinster, Hallgate
Groom's Father: Patrick O'Neil, Farmer
Bride's Father: Elijah Barlow, (deceased), Poller
Witness: Hone Haanay, (X); Mary Haanay, (X)
Married by Superintendent Registrar's Certificate by: J. Bailey (curate)
Register: Marriages 1873 - 1880, Page 242, Entry 484
Source: LDS Film 1885698


This appears to be James and he is born in Galway:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dukinfield Street, Bedford, Leigh, Lancashire, England

James Oneil Head Married Male 38 1863* Coal Miner Ireland - Co. Galway *should say born 1853 !!!!!!!
Phoebe Oneil Wife Married Female 30 1861 - Staffordshire, England
John W Oneil Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Durham, England
Patrick Oneil Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Northumberland, England
Polly Oneil Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Lancashire, England
Bridget Cope Mother In Law Widow Female 56 1835 Marine Store Assistant Mayo, Ireland
Thomas Sheridon Brother In Law Married Male 26 1865 Coal Miner Staffordshire, England
Mary Sheridon Sister In Law Married Female 24 1867 - Staffordshire, England
John W Sheridon Nephew - Male 0 1891 - Lancashire, England


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Haswell Moor, Easington, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James O Neil Head Married Male 28 1853 Coal Miner Ireland
Feabey O Neil Wife Married Female 19 1862 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England
John W O Neil Son Single Male 0 1881 - Wingate, Durham, England


???
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BARLOW, PHOEBE MCDERMOTT
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 149

????
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
O NEIL, PHOEBE BARLOW
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 269

O'NEIL, PATRICK BARLOW
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 18


O'NEILL, JOHN WILLIAM BARLOW
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in EASINGTON Volume 10A Page 449


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
33, Dukinfield Street, Leigh, Lancashire, England

Bridget Cope Head Widow Female 66 1835 - Ireland
Phoebe O Neil Daughter Married Female 38 1863 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
John W O Neil Grand Son Single Male 20 1881 Coal Mine Drawer Underground Wingate, Durham, England
Patrick O Neil Grand Son Single Male 18 1883 Coal Mine Drawer Underground Elswick, Northumberland, England
Mary O Neil Grand Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Cotton Card Room Hand Leigh, Lancashire, England


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I now have a baptism for 'a' James who fits the one above and he was baptised in Tuam:

Name: James O'Neil
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1853
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1853
Baptism Place: Tuam, Galway, Ireland
Diocese: Tuam
Father: Patrick O'Neil
Mother: Mar(y) Mullone
Sp. ? Bridget Burke

I think we may be on to something here - we need to find a marriage for Patrick O'Neil to Mary Mullone and a son 'Patrick' for them to fit this all together........... Do you have anything in your notes to help?

Also, I note that we have seen the name 'Burke' as in 'Bridget Burke' at James' baptism before - do you have a note of Bridget anywhere?

Dea x