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Susan

Susan Report 21 May 2019 07:56

malyon - yeah I had considered this one but agree with Rambling when I looked and MMN is Williams.

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 22:42

That's this family, so probably the Olive bn Births Sep 1868 (>99%)
SEALE Olive Camberwell 1d 657

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
15, Wolsey Avenue, Walthamstow, West Ham, London & Essex, England

Philip Childs Head Married Male 49 1852 Designer & Manr Over Mantles Germany
Olive Childs Wife Married Female 32 1869 - London, Middlesex, England
Hahatia Childs Daughter - Female 7 1894 - London, Middlesex, England
Maude Childs Daughter - Female 6 1895 - London, Middlesex, England
Blanche Childs Daughter - Female 6 1895 - London, Middlesex, England
Adolphus Childs Son - Male 3 1898 - London, Middlesex, England
Julina Childs Son - Male 2 1899 - London, Middlesex, England

malyon

malyon Report 20 May 2019 22:36

could this be olive's marriage

Marriages Mar 1892 (>99%)
BURLETSON Margaret Jessie Islington 1b 487 Scan available - click to view
Childs Philip Islington 1b 487 Scan available - click to view
Crossley Alfred Josiah Islington 1b 487 Scan available - click to view
Seale Olive Islington 1b 487

malyon

malyon Report 20 May 2019 22:25

Olive Seale
England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Collections from
Great Britain, England
Country
England
County
London
Year
1892
District
Islington

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2019 19:49

Going back to Martha M Davies (possibly nee Palmer) -

this looks like her in 1891 -

Martha M Davies
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Martha M Davies
Gender: Female
Age: 47
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1844
Birth Place: Aymestrey, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Leominster
Residence Place: Leominster, Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Sub registration district: Leominster
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 2072
Folio: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha M Davies 47 - widow, keeper of commercial temperance hotel
John Hall 75 - uncle, widower, Luston
Jane E Price 8 - visitor, Luston.
Mary Bowland 18 - servant
Richard Ashford 45 - boarder
Herbert W Rhodes 25 - boarder
Frederick L Duck 18 - boarder

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 19:45

The Olive Hoome posted by AustinQ same birth details, also does not appear anywhere else , nor does the name Hoome as far as I can see.

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 19:35

Mistranscribed on FMP Morvan on image


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Mill Common, Kingstone, Hereford, Herefordshire, England


William Morgan Or Moraean Head Married Male 38 1843 General Labourer Sutton, Herefordshire, England
Mary Ann Morgan Or Moraean Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Lugwardine, Herefordshire, England
Edwin G Morgan Or Moraean Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Withington, Herefordshire, England
Sarah Ann Morgan Or Moraean Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Yarkhill, Herefordshire, England
William Morgan Or Moraean Son Single Male 2 1879 - Kingstone, Herefordshire, England
Jinie ? Morgan Or Moraean Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Kingstone, Herefordshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 19:30

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cottage, Pipe cum Lyde, Hereford, Herefordshire, England


William Morvan Head Married Male 46 1845 Agricultural Labourer Herefordshire, England
Mary A Morvan Wife Married Female 44 1847 - Herefordshire, England
Edwin G Morvan Son Single Male 17 1874 General Labourer Herefordshire, England
Sarah A Morvan Daughter - Female 15 1876 Scholar Herefordshire, England
William Morvan Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Herefordshire, England
Elizabeth Morvan Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Herefordshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 19:30

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cottage, Pipe cum Lyde, Hereford, Herefordshire, England


William Morvan Head Married Male 46 1845 Agricultural Labourer Herefordshire, England
Mary A Morvan Wife Married Female 44 1847 - Herefordshire, England
Edwin G Morvan Son Single Male 17 1874 General Labourer Herefordshire, England
Sarah A Morvan Daughter - Female 15 1876 Scholar Herefordshire, England
William Morvan Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Herefordshire, England
Elizabeth Morvan Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Herefordshire, England

MORVAN, EDWIN GEORGE SEAL
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in HEREFORD & DORE Volume 06A Page 492
MORVAN, WILLIAM SEAL
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 548
MORVAN, SARAH ANN SEAL
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in LEDBURY Volume 06A Page 459

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 19:28

Just while I see them

MORVAN, EMILY SEAL
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 504

MORVAN, IREANEY SEAL
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 532

MORVAN, MARY ANN SEAL
GR
O Reference: 1879 M Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 549

MORVAN, ELIZABETH SEAL
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 529

death MORVAN, TREANEY 0
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 295

MORVAN, EMILY 0
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 265

Susan

Susan Report 20 May 2019 19:22

Rambling - this is the one I was going with but was a bit lead by another tree and ancestry hints so was coming back to it to have a better search on options. Its frustrating when you cannot have a quick look at the parish records for marriages and you cannot but the PDF version of the certificates. :-(

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 19:19

??

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Morvan William Hereford 6a 925
Seale Mary Anne Hereford 6a 925

MORVAN, MARY ANN SEAL
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in HEREFORD Volume 06A Page 549 ( died same year

Susan

Susan Report 20 May 2019 19:18

ArgyllGran - yeah adoption was my thought as well as I cannot see a death and cannot find a trace of her post 1871. If that is the case is it a dead end?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2019 19:11

Perhaps Olive was adopted and her name changed, if nobody in the family was prepared to take on a 3-year-old child.

Or maybe she was adopted earlier, while still a baby, if her father couldn't cope and was perhaps unwell - 1871-73.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 May 2019 19:08

Thomas married Mary Underwood, who already had a child - George

She gave him two children - Thomas and Mary Ann, then died in 1853

Thomas re-married and fathered two children whose births are on the GRO site.

When the GRO rectify their omission you will be able to find out if Olive was Thomas’s daughter, or his Granddaughter. If you’re not prepared to wait for that, a copy of the birth certificate would give you the answer

None of which is of any help with tracing Olive after 1871

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 19:07

There is this birth in 1874 which 'might' be to Mary Ann

SEAL, MARY ANN -
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in WEOBLEY Volume 06A Page 519

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2019 19:05

On the other hand (following on from my last post ), there's this - don't know if connected or not -

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
BARKER Edmund Leominster 6a 1123
DAVIES Charles Leominster 6a 1123
DAVIS Charles Leominster 6a 1123
DEARN Betsy Butler Leominster 6a 1123
Palmer Martha Maria Leominster 6a 1123 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 May 2019 19:04

Sorry if I am repeating, I may have missed it


First name(s) MARY ANN
Last name SEAL
Birth year 1851
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Underwood
District Weobley
County Herefordshire
Country England
Volume XXVI
Page 239

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2019 18:50

???

DAVIES, SAMUEL mms PRICE
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in WEOBLEY Volume 06A Page 409

or this one ??

DAVIES, SAMUEL -
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in LEOMINSTER Volume 06A Page 454



Floundering, looking for links:

???

Martha Harry [ Harvy, I think ]
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Martha Harry
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Bridgwaters
Gender: Female
Where born: Abby Misley, Herefordshire, England [ Aymestrey ]
Civil Parish: Luston
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leominster
Sub-registration district: Kingsland
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 116
Piece: 2718
Folio: 59
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Bridgwaters 70
Elizabeth Bridgwaters 61
Martha Harry 29 - dressmaker, married


1881 census (previously posted) says Martha M Davies, Samuel's wife, was born "Aystree" (Aymestrey).


Wrong reg district, and wrong middle initial - but will post in case:

???
PALMER, MARTHA ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in PRESTEIGNE & KINGTON Volume 26 Page 259



???
Edward Bridgewaters
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edward Bridgewaters
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Leominster
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 1084
Records on Page:
Name
Edward Bridgewaters
Elizabeth Palmer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Susan

Susan Report 20 May 2019 18:26

P.S on the 1871 Census it is difficult ro read but possibly lists Mary Ann Seale born Kings Pyon