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hi all I would like to thank all who have took their time to help me .
sorry for wrong info but that was the lead I was tracking and still would be if it wasn't the info you all have found SORRY the dunn 1863 kennedy marriage is right as Maggie was a witness on garrets first marriage .

so Robert 1863c mother was ann murphy not married to father Robert dunn ann married peter carroll .
that means I cant trace dunn back any further any suggestions ?

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Name: Robert Dunn
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1865
Burial Date: 10 Aug 1901
Burial Place: Woolton, St Peter's, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Much Woolton

a suburb of liverpool

bridgets marriage
father robert dunn deceased, a fireman
Name: Bridget Dunn
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 20
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1883
Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1903
Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Nicholas, Lancashire, England
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Father: Robert Dunn
Spouse: Martin Delaney

catherine
1911
Name: Catherine Dunn
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Mother
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 9 Florance Square Liverpool
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: Charwoman
Registration district: Liverpool
Registration District Number: 453
Sub-registration district: Scotland
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 22126
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Finnan 22 -------- dunn
Michael Finnan 2
Catherine Dunn 40
Peter Dunn 20
Joseph Dunn 18

FINNAN, MICHAEL DUNN
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 24

Perhaps this Robert?:

Name: Robertus Dunn
[Robert Dunn]
Age: 0
Birth Date: 29 May 1864
Baptism Date: 28 Jun 1864
Baptism Place: St Alban's Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Roberts Dunn
Mother: Anna Murphy

Not sure if his parents ever married, as his Mum marries in 1867 and lists herself as a spinster:

name(s) Peter Carroll
Age Full
Occupation Labourer
Marital status Bachelor
Marriage date 22 May 1867
Place Liverpool, Our Lady and St Nicholas
Denomination Church Of England
Diocese Liverpool
Residence Blackstone ST
Father's name(s) Richard Carroll
Father's occupation Labourer
Spouse's name(s) Ann Murphy
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Spouse's residence Hedley St
Spouse's father's name(s) Gerard Murphy
Spouse's father's occupation Labourer
Witness 1 Joseph Murphy
Witness 2 Margaret Murphy
County Lancashire
Archive Liverpool Record Office
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Family in 1881:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
18, Beacon Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Peter Carroll Head Married Male 34 1847 Dock Labr Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ann Carroll Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Ireland
Margaret Carroll Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Carroll Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Bridget Carroll Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Annie Carroll Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Peter Carroll Son Single Male 2 1879 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Joseph Carroll Son Single Male 0 1881 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Dunne Stepson Single Male 16 1865 Boiler Sealer Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Patrick Murphy Boarder Single Male 20 1861 Dock Labr Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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This is Ann in 1861- note father is Garrett (same name as Robert's son). Garrett and Gerard are often interchanged:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
61, Hedley Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Garret Murphy Head Married Male 46 1815 Stoker In Gas Work Ireland
Mary Murphy Wife - Female 44 1817 - Ireland
James Murphy Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Labourer In Brick Field Ireland
Joseph Murphy Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Labourer In Brick Field Ireland
Ann Murphy Daughter - Female 14 1847 Servant Ireland
Margaret Murphy Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Ireland
Margaret Demsey Cousin Unmarried Female 18 1843 General Servant Ireland

I think you could be following the wrong Robert.

The son Robert, born to Robert Dunn and Mary Hughes was Robert Joseph, but as he doesn't appear on the census with his siblings it's likely he died in 1864:

Birth:
DUNN, ROBERT JOSEPH (mother's maiden name: HUGHES)
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 147

Baptism:
Name: Robertus Joseph Dunn
Age: 0
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1863
Baptism Date: 29 Sep 1863
Baptism Place: St Vincent de Paul, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Roberti Dunn
Mother: Maria Anna Hughes

Death:
DUNN, ROBERT JOSEPH 1
GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 164
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I take it you are looking for details on this Robert that married Catherine Kennedy:

name(s) Robert Dunn
Age 19
Birth year 1863
Occupation Labourer
Marital status Bachelor
Marriage date 24 Jul 1882
Place Liverpool, Our Lady and St Nicholas
Denomination Church Of England
Diocese Liverpool
Residence Blenheim Street
Father's name(s) Robert Dunn
Father's occupation Mariner
Spouse's name(s) Catherine Kennedy
Spouse's age 18
Spouse's birth year 1864
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Spouse's residence Blenheim Street
Spouse's father's name(s) Peter Kennedy
Spouse's father's occupation Labourer
Witness 1 Niclolas Boyd
Witness 2 Margaret Carrell
County Lancashire
Archive Liverpool Record Office
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Catherine 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Denbigh Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Kate Dunne Head Married Female 25 1866 - Lancashire, England
Garrett Dunne Son - Male 4 1887 - Lancashire, England
Bridget Dunne Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Lancashire, England
Maggie Dunne Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Lancashire, England
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Catherine a widow in 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
House Court, 1, Penrhyn Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Catherine Dunn Head Widow Female 35 1866 Chip Hawker Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Margaret Dunn Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Peter Dunn Son Single Male 10 1891 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Joseph Dunn Son Single Male 8 1893 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Re your post 13:07, this is jumping back another generation without establishing the links to your family on the subsequent generations. Highly possible you've just found another John Dunn as it's not an uncommon name.

You have previously said John was the Irish connection (suggesting an Irish birth?), but the one you've found baptized is in Liverpool, and the 1871 census would suggest that Robert (c1828) was born Ireland. So is this likely?

Malyon found a potential naval record, suggesting your Robert was born in Antrim, Ireland. It might be worth buying the naval record from the national archives site.

I could not find Robert on the census but took it he was at sea I started tracking back from garrett dunn 1886 he married 1910 mathra Harriot ashton but also married Elizabeth McGarrigle 1906 was jailed nov 1910 for 3 months for being married without being divorced garrett father was Robert he was mariner fireman

hi all just found a john dunn baptism 19 November 1809 birth 18oct, st Nicholas reg no 1469
father Thomas dunn mariner
mother alice bond abode maquire st file no 1469 just to confuse my self some more

I just can't seem to find Robert on the 1861 or 1881 census to check his birth place, but being a mariner he could have been out at sea. Maria Anna is clearly with her parents and children in 1861. If we could find him we may know where to look for a birth to try to establish his mothers name.

How have your tracked back to the family, is it through the son Robert (c1863)?

if the marriage for Robert dunn maria hughes is correct the father of Robert is john dunn but who did he marry??

I think this later baptism for another child (if correct) might eliminate the death posted for Mary A:

Anna Joanna Dunn
Age: 0
Birth Date: 17 Sep 1869
Baptism Date: 21 Sep 1869
Baptism Place: St Patrick, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Father: Roberti Dunn
Mother: Maria Anna Hughes

as far as knew Robert was a mariner the maria anna death could be right
john marriage I don't know I have found quite a few marriages
did mary loveday have a child Robert?

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Name: Robert Dunn
Record Type: Crew
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1831
Birth Place: Liverpool, England
Vessel Name: Edward Oliver
Vessel Type: Ship
Voyage Departure Date: 20 Jan 1863
Voyage Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Voyage Arrival Date: 4 Jan 1864
Voyage Arrival Port: Liverpool, England
Vessel Registration Number: J854194
Vessel Registration Place: St. John, New Brunswick
Year Vessel Constructed: 1854
Date Joined Present Ship: 22 Jan 1863
Place Joined Present Ship: Liverpool, England
Crew Number: 4
Literacy: Signed name
Completed What Signed On To Do?: Yes
Discharge Date: 4 Jan 1864
Discharge Place: Liverpool, England
Discharge: Discharged at end of voyage
Last Discharge Date: 27 May 1862
Last Discharge Place: Liverpool, England
Registry of Last Ship: English
Company From Last Ship: 0
Capacity (Rank): Bosun/Mate
Payment Type (Time): By the month
Wage: 400
Wage Currency: Sterling
Cash Advance: 400
Cash Advance Currency: Sterling

I wouldn't dismiss that 1871 census - I believe this is Susan's baptism:

Susanna Evelina Dunn
Age: 0
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1859
Baptism Date: 23 Jan 1859
Baptism Place: St Vincent de Paul, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Father: Roberti Dunn
Mother: Maria Anna Hughes

And Mary's
Maria Helena Dunn
Age: 0
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1855
Baptism Date: 28 Oct 1855
Baptism Place: St Vincent de Paul, Liverpool , Lancashire , England
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Father: Roberti Dunn
Mother: Maria Anna Hughes

could john have been born in liverpool and was in the army in ireland when robert was born


John Dunn
England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900





Name:
John Dunn
Event Type:
Intended marriage
Event Date:
21 Apr 1819, 21 Apr 1819, 21 Apr 1819
Residence Place:
Liverpool, Lancaster, Chester
Gender:
Male
Age:
21
Marital Status:
Batchelor
Spouse's Name:
Mary Lovelady
Spouse's Residence Place:
Liverpool
Spouse's Age:
18
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spinster
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Elisabeth Lovelady

is this mary ann
Maria Anna
Last name Dunn
Age 35
Birth year 1830
Death year 1865
Death date 13 Oct 1865
Burial year 1865
Burial date 15 Oct 1865
Church St Augustine
Parish Liverpool, St Augustine
Diocese Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Archive
Liverpool Record Office
Archive reference 282/AUG/3/1
Document type Deaths
Records year range 1859-1870

1861
Name: Mary A Dunn
[Mary A Hughes]
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: 1834
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Hughes
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 25d
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 190
Piece: 2679
Folio: 75
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Hughes 50
Ann I Hughes 21
Sarah Hughes 19
Mary A Dunn 27
Mary E Dunn 5
Susan E Dunn 2
Peter McStay 24
Phoebe McStay 24
Susan R McStay 9/12
Michael Sullivan 22

oh dear it looks like I have made some mistakes along the way

as far as I know Robert dunn married cathrine kennedy in 1882 they had a son garrett 1886 jun 8b page 32 ?

Robert Dunn
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941





Name:
Robert Dunn
Event Type:
Military Service
Event Year Range:
1845-1854
Event Place:
United Kingdom
Birthplace:
Antrim
Birth Year:
1828

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ROBERT JOSEPH
Last name DUNN
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1864
District Liverpool
County Lancashire
Volume 8B
Page 164