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Mary Ann Stewart Scotland 1911 Census

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Ellen

Ellen Report 6 Oct 2019 06:57

It has been awhile since I was last on this wonderful site.
I found that
James Sedgwick Stewart was born to James Stewart & Eleanor Margaret Fletcher 16th July 1906 Castle Street Brechin
William Irons Stewart was born to Ann Stewart ( Illegitimate) 18th August 1910 at Bridge Street Brechin
Alexander Milne Stewart was born 12th May 1911 to a Margaret Stewart ( Illegitimate)

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Jun 2019 18:11

Ah sorry Ag. I noticed a lot of different surnames being used for the children. Margaret had Mackenzie I think as did Ann?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2019 17:53

I risked a look at Alexander Milne Stewart - and he's not one of Mary's.

His mother was an unmarried Margaret Stewart.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2019 17:22

So that narrows the possible Duncan deaths down to:

Margaret Johnston Duncan
Nellie Mowat Duncan (though gut feeling says not)
George Hetherington Duncan
Archibald Buchan. . . Duncan

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2019 13:55

As all Mary's children seem to have middle names, I'll assume any deceased ones did too.

So these are the possible Duncan deaths, 1891-1911.

DUNCAN [EDIT: No, I had a look at his birth - wrong parents.]
DAVID HUTCHEON
0
1892
275/ 118
Brechin

DUNCAN
ARCHIBALD BUCHA
1
1893
275/ 81
Brechin


DUNCAN
GEORGE HETHERIN
0
1895
275/ 180
Brechin

DUNCAN (probably not this one, as Charles Thomas was born 1896 - though not impossible, depending on exactly when the births were.
NELLIE MOWAT
0
1896
275/ 162
Brechin


DUNCAN [ Born 1890 - so too early ]
DAVID MACRAE
7
1898
275/ 102
Brechin


DUNCAN
MARGARET JOHNTO [mis-spelling of Johnston ]
0
1904
275/ 86
Brechin

DUNCAN [EDIT: No, she was born in Logie Pert, not Brechin ]
MARY MOIR
4
1907
275/ 92
Brechin


DUNCAN [EDIT: Not this one - he was born in Kincardineshire.]
JOSEPH ROBB
7
1909
275/ 20
Brechin

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2019 13:34

I agree with Alviegal about Mary Fenton, Ellen.
She's not your Mary's daughter.

Unfortunately Mary Fenton's birth cert wouldn't help prove it either way, as it would only say "mother Mary Duncan, unmarried" or words to that effect.

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Jun 2019 11:46

My money's on the last one AG seeing he has Milne as a middle name. That was Mary Ann's middle name on her MC.

Looking up an Isabella Fenton in Brechin, I came across this one.



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

44, Montrose Street, Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

James Fenton Head Married Male 28 1853 Slater Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
>>Isabella Fenton Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
>>>Mary Duncan Step Daughter - Female 7 1874 Scholar Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
John Fenton Son - Male 2 1879 - Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
James Fenton Son - Male 1 1880 - Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Peter D Fenton Son - Male 0 1881 - Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland


I think this Mary Duncan is the mother of Mary Fenton Duncan. The 1881 I posted above has Simona Duncan in it as has the 1901 posted so I would think that is the correct family for the poster's Mary Ann Duncan.


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Montrose Street, Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

James Fenton Head Married Male 38 1853 Slater Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
>>Isabella Fenton Wife Married Female 40 1851 Slaters Wife Aberdeenshire, Scotland
>>Mary Duncan Fenton Step Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1874 Steam Loom Linen Weaver Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
John Fenton Son - Male 12 1879 Stationers Message Boy Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
James Fenton Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Peter Fenton Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Isabella Fenton Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Jessie Fenton Daughter - Female 4 1887 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2019 09:24

Scotlands People is working properly again this morning, thank goodness.

These are the only Stewart children born 1904-1911, who died in Brechin 1904-1911 - have you checked them all out?

STEWART
JAMES SEDGWICK
0
1906
275/ 106
Brechin


STEWART
WILLIAM IRONS
0
1910
275/ 133
Brechin


STEWART
ALEXANDER MILNE
0
1911
275/ 87
Brechin

Ellen

Ellen Report 30 Jun 2019 01:23

Just found another Illegitimate child for Mary Ann Duncan born 1875
Mary Fenton Duncan born 13/4/1904 died 18/4/1904, eight months before she married David Stewart, strangest thing is Isabella Fenton the childs grandmother was the informant
1911 census says that David & Mary had 6 children 2 have died I have to now find who the other child is.
Maybe between Charles Thomas Duncan born 1896 & Mary Fenton born 1904 or after she married David Stewart 1904 before David Duncan Stewarts birth in 1908?

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Jun 2019 19:45

How frustrating!! I keep getting No results to all my searches.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2019 19:38

Aagh! I can't look anything up on SP - all afternoon it's been saying that "the website had encountered an unexpected error" .

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Jun 2019 18:53

So this is Mary Ann with her family.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

17, Middlegate Street, Kirkden, Kirkden Parish, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

James Duncan Head Married Male 31 1850 Labourer Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Margaret Duncan Wife Married Female 27 1854 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Margaret Duncan Daughter - Female 8 1873 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
>>Mary Duncan Daughter - Female 6 1875 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Ann Duncan Daughter - Female 4 1877 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Simona Duncan Daughter - Female 2 1879 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
William Duncan Son - Male 0 1881 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

River Street, Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

Margaret Duncan Head Widow Female 36 1855 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Margaret Duncan Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1873 Linen Weaver Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
>>Maryann Duncan Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1875 Linen Weaver Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Annie Duncan Daughter - Female 14 1877 Millworker (Reeler) Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Simona Duncan Daughter - Female 12 1879 Millworker (Reeler) Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
William Duncan Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Lizzie Duncan Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Steward Duncan Son - Male 4 1887 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
David Duncan Son - Male 2 1889 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

Ellen

Ellen Report 28 Jun 2019 15:42

An update on my research
Mary Ann Duncan married David Stewart 30/12/1904. Their children were David Duncan Stewart born 30/3/1908 & Alexander Duncan Stewart born 7/10/1910

Mary Ann Duncan had 2 illegitimate sons James Crocket Gibson Duncan born 13/6/1894 Charles Thomson Duncan born 9/2/1896.

1911 Census states they had 6 children 2 died ,this must have been between 1904 (their marriage ) & David Duncan Stewarts birth in 1908 impossible to know who they were as to many on Scotlands People

Ellen

Ellen Report 12 Jun 2019 13:32

I have just found out the father was indeed David born abt 1876, Thanks everyone I am so grateful for all of your help I could not have done it myself Ellen

Dea

Dea Report 12 Jun 2019 13:11

David Duncan Stewart was born on 30th March 1908 at 99 River St., Brechin to David Stewart (General Labourer) and Mary Ann Stewart (maiden name Duncan). They were apparently married in 1904 on 30th December in Brechin. (That is what it says on David's 1908 birth registration).

Dea x

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 12 Jun 2019 12:33

James listed as tenant occupier at same address in 1914:

JAMES STEWART
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 12B CITY ROAD
BRECHIN
1914
-------------------------

Dundee Courier - Monday 21 September 1914

BRECHIN
The following members of the Nation Reserve (class II), enlisted in 5th Black Watch have left Brechin to take up their duty:-....James Stewart 12b City Road

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2019 12:23

Looks like the children James and Charles in 1901:

James Duncan
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: James Duncan
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relationship: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Brechin, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 275
Registration district: Brechin
Civil Parish: Brechin
Town: Brechin
County: Angus
Address: 13 Bridge St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 82
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1901_88
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Duncan 46
Simona Duncan 22 - daughter
Lizzie Duncan 18 - daughter
David Duncan 11 - son
Ina Duncan 8 - daughter
James Duncan 6 - grandson
Charles S Duncan 5 - grandson
Christina Weston 9mo - grand-daughter



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2019 12:14

Maybe possibly David's death - I don't know what the second middle name is - you'd have to buy a copy of the cert to see that, unfortunately.


STEWART
DAVID DUNCAN RA. . . . . .
68
mms DUNCAN
1975
367/ 143

Montrose

Dea

Dea Report 12 Jun 2019 12:06

Had a few credits on that site so took a look but I don't know how to get a transcription ??

This is what it shows but I can't quite read all the birthplaces - all the children are Brechin - Mary A is Forfar ? and David looks like Lei?? somewhere in Forfarth??



1911:
12 b. City Rd., Brechin
David Stewart Head 35 surfaceman on Railway
Mary Ann Stewart wife 37 mar. 7 yrs. 6 children born, 4 still alive.
James Duncan son 17 Bleacher at Bleachfield
Charles Duncan son 16 Bobbin Whipper? at Spinning Mill
David Stewart son 4
Alexander Stewart son 6 months

I will try to save the image to keepsakes later and post you the link.

Hope this helps,

Dea x

Well, You ALL beat me to it but that's 'coz I don't know how to work that silly site !!!!
;-) :-D :-D <3

Dea x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2019 11:58

Possible marriage ?? Note Mary Ann's maiden surname.


STEWART
DAVID
DUNCAN
MARY ANN MILNE
1905
275/ 2
Brechin


When you say "husband unknown", do you mean that no father is named on the children's birth certs, or just that you personally don't know his name?