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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jul 2019 23:46

Re Caroline and William Jennings:

Caroline Jennings
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Caroline Jennings
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Jennings
Gender: Female
Where born: Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Wavendon
Town: Wavendon
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Newport Pagnell
Sub-registration district: Fenny Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 1418
Folio: 146
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jennings 28
Caroline Jennings 25
George F Jennings 2
Sarah J Jennings

???

Name: Caroline Goodall
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Nov 1845
Christening Date (Original): 16 NOV 1845
Christening Place: WAVENDON,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Joseph Goodall
Mother's Name: Pauline



Caroline Goodhall
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Caroline Goodhall
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Goodhall
Mother's name: Paullua Goodhall
Gender: Female
Where born: Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Wavendon
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Newport Pagnell
Sub-registration district: Fenny Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 1723
Folio: 203
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Goodhall 54
Paullua Goodhall 46 - Salford, Beds.
John Goodhall 20
Sheba Goodhall 9
Caroline Goodhall 5
Jane Goodhall 3




Susanna's mother was Mary, as posted earlier.

Possibly Caroline was a half-sister, from an earlier marriage of Joseph ??

ADDED:

Well, no, not an earlier marriage. Joseph married Paulina in 1824:

Pauline Cooke
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Pauline Cooke
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 30 Nov 1824
Marriage Place: Salford, Bedford, England
Spouse: Joseph Goodall
FHL Film Number: 1066950
Reference ID: item 2 p 34

So Susanna and Caroline are children of two different Josephs.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jul 2019 10:23

I think the death for Susanna Murden is the lady that married George Goodhall.

If Caroline lists herself as Susanna's sister, I think there must be some family connection. I also think it likely that they were both born to the same Joseph.

It's a shame I can't see an original of Susanna's baptism. I cannot see a marriage between a Joseph Goodhall and Mary that would fit. I also don't see any other baptism in Wavendon with father Joseph and mother Mary.
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There are a few oddities within the family. This is them in 1841:

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Church End, Wavendon, Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, England

Joseph Goodall Male 35 1806 Buckinghamshire, England
Paulliner Goodall Female 33 1808 Buckinghamshire, England
John Goodall Male 8 1833 Buckinghamshire, England
Sarah Goodall Female 3 1838 Buckinghamshire, England
Thomas Goodall Male 1 1840 Buckinghamshire, England

Births:
GOODHALL, SARAH COOKE
GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNELL UNION Volume 06 Page 275
(likey death for this Sarah in 1845 aged 8)

GOODHALL, THOMAS COOKE
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNEL UNION Volume 06 Page 389
(likely death for Thomas in 1845 aged 5)
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There is no Susanna with them in 1841- although she could've been in service or living with a relative.

Same family in 1851:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Wavendon, Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, England

Joseph Goodhall Head Married Male 54 1797 Labor Wavendon, Buckingham
Paullna Goodhall Wife Married Female 46 1805 Lace Maker Salford, Bedfordshire,
John Goodhall Son Single Male 20 1831 Labor Wavendon, Buckingham
Sheba Goodhall Daughter Single Female 9 1842 Lacemaker Wavendon, Buckingham
Caroline Goodhall Daughter Single Female 5 1846 Schollar Wavendon, Buckingham
Jane Goodhall Daughter Single Female 3 1848 Schollar Wavendon, Buckingham

Births:
GOODHALL, SHABIE COOKE
GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNEL UNION Volume 06 Page 356

GOODHALL, JANE COOKE
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNELL UNION Volume 06 Page 379
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Now- there are these births:

GOODHALL, SARAH COOKE
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNELL UNION Volume 06 Page 350

GOODHALL, CAROLINE (no mother;s maiden name listed)
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNEL UNION Volume 06 Page 367
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I see a baptism for Caroline, but not for Sarah?

But there is this possible child Sarah, in the union workhouse

Name: Sarah Goodhall
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Newport Pagnell
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Registration district: Newport Pagnell
Sub-registration district: Fenny Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: Newport Pagnell Union Workhouse



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jul 2019 10:46

Probably Susan(na) in 1851 - apologies if already posted:

Susan Goodhall
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Susan Goodhall
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Hampstead
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 1492
Folio: 32
Page Number: 5

I can't see her in 1841 so far.

I agree with your last post, AQ, though hadn't delved as far as you have.

It could well be that "Mary" is a mistake on either Susanna's birth record, or the transcription.

Clive

Clive Report 14 Jul 2019 00:33

Thanks All.

I wonder if some of them may be using their middle names on census and official name on birth, marriage death?

Austin Q previously posted the following as probable marriage of Susanna to Samuel Murden in Chatham ( an army town I believe):

Name: Samuel Murden
Registration Year: 1855
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a Page: 315
Mary Ann Goodwin
Susan Maria Goodwin<<<<<<<<<<<
James Griffiths
Samuel Murden <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Who would Mary Ann be? A witness? If so, probably another sister?

Has anyone seen a Mary Ann Goodall with a sister Caroline anywhere?

Also, is the middle name a clue also?

Clive

Clive Report 14 Jul 2019 01:29

Also, the witnesses to the marriage of Susanna Goodall to George Goodall in Wavendon in 1846 were David Billington or Willington and Mary Cook.

The Cook/ Cooke name is definitely linked somehow...

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Jul 2019 07:41

Hi Clive,

I had the same thought as you when I looked at the marriages- thinking that perhaps Mary Ann Goodwin was related.

However, I don't see any connection and wonder if Susanna simply took rthe surname of Mary Ann to cover her already married status:

Name: Mary Ann Goodwin
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1833
Marriage Date: 19 Feb 1855
Marriage Place: Chatham, St Mary, Kent, England
Father: Joseph Goodwin
Spouse: James Griffiths
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Mary Ann in 1851:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Higgins Yard, Chatham, Medway, Kent, England
Joseph Goodwin Head Married Male 50 1801 Bricklayer Sheerness, Kent,
Eliza Goodwin Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Sheerness, Kent,
Mary Ann Goodwin Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Chatham, Kent,
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Mary Ann with husband in 1861:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
16, Hope Street, Minster, Sheppey, Kent, England
James Griffiths Head Married Male 29 1832 Shipwrights Sheerness, Kent,
Mary A Griffiths Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Chatham, Kent,
Eliza A Griffiths Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Sheerness, Kent,
James G Griffiths Son - Male 2 1859 - Sheerness, Kent,
Louisa R Griffiths Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Sheerness, Kent,