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John Report 19 Aug 2019 18:00

Yes I do now DetEcTive, I had never knew about the 1939 register being added to over the years. And yes ArgylGran realise now that Keith W Rose had a mother Fennings but it threw me at the time of looking it up and both the Jennings and Fennings are practically from the same area in Kent and both married a Rose. So excuse me for being dumb, going to put it down to my age. lol


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Aug 2019 23:01

Copy of 1939 Register sent by PM. Even if it does turn out to be the incorrect family, at least John will have a better understanding on the alterations


ArgyllGran Report 18 Aug 2019 22:57

You say you're confused about Keith W Rose.

He is not part of your Jennings family.

His birth record gives his mother's maiden surname as Fennings, which you thought might be meant to be Jennings.
However, there is a Rose/Fennings marriage in Medway reg district in 1930 - they will be his parents.

And his mother's birth record (1911, in Godstone) also gives her name as Fennings - so it's not a mistake .


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Aug 2019 22:51

It *is* the original - Legg is the name used on her death registration.
The 1939 Register formed the basis for the NHS registration system & was updated with surname changes until about 1992.

Jennings, Audrey J was written in the same black ink & handwriting as the rest of the page.
Blue ink crossed out Jennings & a different handwriting wrote Rose. They also wrote M in the left hand margin.
Green ink added Legg and 'ean' to the J = Jean
A new margin note, in green, wrote ECIA-KC 25.465

It's possible that the letters formed a new NHS number & the 24.465 could be the date the register was last updated ie 24 May 1965.


ArgyllGran Report 18 Aug 2019 22:48

I'm not sure what you mean when you say the 1939 register isn't the original.

As Kath said earlier, on the image of the original document, Audrey's name was Jennings when the register was first compiled. The other names were added later, after her marriages. The register was kept updated until about 1990, and changes of name, etc, were added.

The transcription which Kath posted is as it appears on FMP.

Here's the Ancestry transcription, which maybe makes it clearer:

Audrey Jean Jennings
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Audrey Jean Jennings
[Audrey Jean Legg]
[Audrey Jean Rose]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1912
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 51 Public House
Residence Place: Gravesend, Kent, England
Occupation: Hairdresser
Schedule Number: 126
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: DHUA
Registration district: 44-1
Inferred Father: Patrick J Jennings
Inferred Mother: Jean Jennings
Household Members:
Patrick J Jennings
Jean Jennings
Audrey Jean Jennings
John O'Shaughnessy
Ethel Morgan
Robert P Jennings


John Report 18 Aug 2019 21:10

Thankyou for the findings Canada and US. So the 1939 register is not actually the original, if it states Audrey J as being Legg but in fact she was really Audrey J Jennings, which gave me the impression she and her husband were seperated and I couldn’t understand why she married in Dec that year and also had a child, although his mothers mm as Fennings but a post above said discount it because his parents married in 1930 and a name of Fennings. Feeling confused.


ArgyllGran Report 18 Aug 2019 12:39


With Mrs Marie Jennings -

Robert P Jennings
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Robert P Jennings
Occupation: Civil Service
Year: 1963
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District: Eglinton

Hillsdale Avenue. (not the same address as in 1995-2002 above )


ArgyllGran Report 18 Aug 2019 12:36

On Ancestry, there are Canadian Phone and Address Directory entries 1995-2002 for a Robert P Jennings in Toronto.

Not posting here, in case this isn't the right person, as it shows address (same address 1995-2002) and phone number.

Pickering and Brantford, suggested above as places where Mary and Joseph Arnaud died, are both districts of Toronto.


ArgyllGran Report 18 Aug 2019 12:30

Robert Patrick Jennings
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960
Name: Robert Patrick Jennings
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Marital status: Married
Record Type: Manifests
Birth Date: abt 1921
Birth Place: Krith, Leat, England [ Erith Kent, on image ]
Arrival Date: 5 Sep 1943
Port of Arrival: Seattle, Washington, USA
Residence Place: Liverpool, England

Royal Navy.
(Something) with armed forces; official duty.
Going to Tacoma, c/o RNLO, Tacoma. [ Royal Navy Liaison Officer ?? ]
Intending to be in US: 5/8/43 - 31/8/43
Passage paid by Admiralty.

5' 6"; fair complexion; fair hair; blue eyes.

Wife: Marie Jennings, 55 Hartington Rd, Liverpool 8, England

Maybe something to do with this ??

"Puget Sound-area shipyards constructed an unbelievable number of war vessels. At the combined Todd Shipyards/Seattle-Tacoma Shipbuilding operation, 33,000 men and women worked in Tacoma to build five freighters, two transports, 37 escort carriers, five gasoline tankers, and three destroyer tenders. At the Seattle yards, 22,000 employees built 46 destroyers and three tenders for the U.S. Navy, plus other vessels."


KathleenBell Report 18 Aug 2019 10:53

Audrey's name in 1939 was still Jennings. The extra two names (Rose and Legg) were added later as the 1939 register was updated regularly until around 1990.

This is Audrey's first marriage in 1939 after the register was taken:-

First name(s) AUDREY J
Last name JENNINGS
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1939
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

AUDREY J JENNINGS married one of these people

David D Rose

Spouse's last name Rose
District Gravesend
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Volume as transcribed 2A
Page number 3738
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

and her second marriage:-

First name(s) AUDREY J
Last name ROSE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1957
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

AUDREY J ROSE married one of these people

Harry V Legg

Spouse's last name Legg
District Dartford
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 5B
Volume as transcribed 5B
Page number 1056
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Kath. x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Aug 2019 08:07

Saw below...

Chris :)

21 July 1942 - Liverpool Echo - Liverpool, Lancashire, England

JENNINGS - ARNAUD - JuIy 14, at St. Vincent de Paul’s Church, by Rev. Fr, Hodson. Petty Officer ROBERT P. JENNINGS, only son of Mr. and Mrs. Jennings, 21 Portland Road, Gravesend, and MARIE ARNAUD (W.R.N.S.), youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Arnaud, of 87a Rathbone Street.

Edits (Address in the United Kingdom, for Robert on 1956 Passenger List, 3a, Smithdown Place, Liverpool)

1939 Register (Find My Past)

87a Rathbone Street, Liverpool C.B., Lancashire,
Nicholas Arnaud 01 Feb 1884 Male carter Casual Married
Mary A Arnaud 21 Dec 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Married
Margaret Arnaud 08 Oct 1909 Female Laundry Maid Single
James Arnaud 14 Apr 1916 Male Single Sapper 2093651 - 509 Co. Royal Engineers
(2 Closed Records)

(above has Births)

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Arnaud Mary Cunningham Toxteth P. 8b 379

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
ARNAUD Nicholas David
CUNNINGHAM Mary Ann Liverpool 8b 143

(for Public House 1939, Patrick Jennings)

1938/Patrick Jennings/Town Arms, 51 Queen street/../../Post Office Directory


Dea Report 18 Aug 2019 08:05

I think you can discount the Keith W Rose who you found in Dartford as there is a marriage for his 'probable' parents in 1930 and the name 'was' Fennings.!

Dea x


patchem Report 18 Aug 2019 07:39

Mary Arnaud is in a tree on Ancestry.

It does not give a name for any husband, but claims she died on 22nd October 2011 in Pickering Ontario.

Joseph Arnaud is claimed on the same tree to have died about 2004 in Brantford Ontario.


patchem Report 18 Aug 2019 07:11

Travelling to Canada in 1956, Robert born 1915, Mary in 1921 and Joseph, who was married, born 30/8/1927

Joseph A Arnaud mmn Cunningham born September quarter 1927 Liverpool.

Mary is Joseph's sister.

Think Joseph came back in 1957. He had married Sheila A Giblin in 1951.

Joseph is in a tree on here.

Sheila is in the same tree.


safc Report 18 Aug 2019 01:31

robert was traveling to canada with
mary his wife

and joseph arnaud
her son ????


John Report 18 Aug 2019 01:17

Do you think there were any children of Robert and Mary Jennings or were they travelling alone .


John Report 18 Aug 2019 01:07

Thanks safc for finding the marriage, obviously being a Merchant Navy man he met her in Liverpool.


John Report 18 Aug 2019 01:00

Many thanks Safc. Well it looks like him, same birth date, Looks like he could have emigrated, Mary Jennings must be his wife. Now he went in 1956 , thats the year his father died , I wonder if he had lived with him since birth, seeing that his mother had the name Legg in 1939, she married a Legg in 1957. All coming together now, re the box I mentioned in the post above, when he emigrated he gave the box away because didn’t want to take it to Canada with him.


safc Report 18 Aug 2019 00:48

Marriages Sep 1942 (>99%)
Arnaud Mary Jennings Liverpool S. 8b 324 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hoy James E Lally Liverpool S. 8b 324
Jennings Robert P Arnaud Liverpool S. 8b 324 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Lally Margaret Hoy Liverpool S. 8b 324


John Report 18 Aug 2019 00:45

The reason of wanting to find info on Robert Patrick Jennings , I know someone who is looking for his family to give them a box with a plaque on it , given to him in 1935 from the time he was a cadet on board the Worchester and would like to give it to them. She doesn’t know the family at all but I believe her father who use to live in Dartford had it for for some reason. I have found a Keith W Rose b. 1939 and living in Dartford I see his mother down as Fennings but wondering if it should be Jennings.