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Lara family

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Maria

Maria Report 27 Oct 2019 20:44

I am totally stuck, my aunt Joan lara died 1957 aged 13 but I cannot find her birth mothers maiden name violet shuttlewood from West Ham I can find a birth for a Ivan lara 1943 West Ham but no death also nobody knows about this person, I’m very confused any help appreciated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2019 20:49

For background, Violet F Shuttlewood married Albert A W Lara in 1929

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2019 20:52

Could the name Ivan be a mistranscription? Have you considered getting a copy of the cert?

Equally, could Joan be a mistranscription?

Kay????

Kay???? Report 27 Oct 2019 21:08




Edited Post.

maybe there has been a mix up,,as apart from a birth entry for Ivan,,,there is no other index with that name,

his birth reg would be the same time as Joan.?1943.

marriage===none,
death===none,

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2019 21:15

Age at death 13 , so could not be either of those

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2019 21:20

You need the certs, I’m afraid

malyon

malyon Report 27 Oct 2019 22:01

Deaths Mar 1957 (>99%)
LARA Joan 13 Essex S.W. 5a 257

Births Sep 1908 (>99%)
Shuttlewood Violet Frances W. Ham 4a 132

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Oct 2019 22:09

The only Lara/Shuttleworth birth I can see on FreeBMD:


Births Dec 1937 (>99%)

Lara Doris R Shuttleworth W.Ham 4a 5

Edit: Sorry just realized it should be Shuttlewood not Shuttleworth.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Oct 2019 22:16

Violet F Lara Senior

in the 1939 England and Wales Register
View 1939 England and Wales Register

Name: Violet F Lara Senior
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 28 Jul 1908
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 102 Rokeby Street
Residence Place: West Ham, Essex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 66
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: CBAP
Registration district: 188-1
Inferred Spouse: Albert A W Lara
Inferred Children: Albert Lara
Christopher W Lara
Jean E Lara
Household Members:
Name
Albert A W Lara
Violet F Lara
Albert Lara
This record is officially closed.
Christopher W Lara
Jean E Lara

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Oct 2019 22:31

All below are Lara/ Shuttlewood births

June Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration: 1939
West Ham, Essex, England
mother: Shuttlewood

Christopher W Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration: 1931
West Ham, Essex, England
mother: Shuttlewood

Vera Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:1942
West Ham, Essex, England
mother:Shuttlewood

Joyce Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:1945
West Ham, Essex, England
mother:Shuttlewood

Stephen G Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:1935
West Ham, Essex, England
mother:Shuttlewood

Ivan Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:1943
West Ham, Essex, England
mother:Shuttlewood

Grace E Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:1933
West Ham, Essex, England
mother:Shuttlewood

Iris Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:1940
West Ham, Essex, England
mother:Shuttlewood

Violet F Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:1930
West Ham, Essex, England
mother:Shuttlewood

Jean E Lara
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:1932
West Ham, Essex, England
mother:Shuttlewood

malyon

malyon Report 27 Oct 2019 22:31

could not see a marriage or death for a ivan lara

Kay????

Kay???? Report 27 Oct 2019 23:28


Many mistakes are in the indexes when they were transcribed from the GRO ledgers,,,,,

Ivan and Joan couldn't have been born in the same birth year unless a twin?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Oct 2019 00:25

I looked at the image on Freebmd ............ It is definitely Ivan on there, and there is no other Lara birth on that page.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 28 Oct 2019 07:45

If Ivan isn't known to the family then a mistake has been made between the registrar office and the GRO transcript.

It was WW2 mistakes could slip by.

Applying to the GRO.for a copy of Ivans birth may shed light if there was ever such a person or Joan may have been born in another name.?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Oct 2019 07:59

It’s a typed list on the birth record so would say it’s a typo

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2019 09:20

The obvious solution is to get the birth cert and find out the infant’s gender. Badly-written, Joan could look like Ivan.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Nov 2019 10:38

Sent a PM Reply received

Maria

Maria Report 8 Nov 2019 11:34

Thank you everybody for your help, I am now in receipt of the birth certificate and it was mis- transcribed, it was in fact for Joan mystery solved! And Ivan never existed

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Nov 2019 11:46

Seemed like the most plausible scenario.

Glad it's resolved to your satisfaction, and thanks for letting us know