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Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 14:04

Hi helpers.
Looking for birth of Joseph Beecham b c1868 to 1880.

I have his marriage in 1901 to Kate (Catherine) Hogan. his age as b1876 both living in Battersea
I have military, his age as 35 in 1915. Living Nine Elms Battersea.
I have 1911 census, his age as 35 =b1873 with wife and 2 children.
I have 1939 register as b1868 with eldest son. Lambeth Kennington

1911 census shows born in Fulham
M cert shows father as Stephen Beecham. Can't find him either.
Can't find any other census.
I tried various spellings.
Help please.
Regards Les.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Nov 2019 14:14

He may not have been registered
It wasn’t a legal requirement before 1875

Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 14:41

Thank you Shirley

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Nov 2019 14:48

Name: Joseph Beecham
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1880 ----------
Enlistment Age: 35
Marriage Date: 18 May 1901
Marriage Place: St Josephs Battersea
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 7 Panton St, Nine Elms, Bathersea S W
Regimental Number: 307576
Regiment Name: Labour Corps
Number of Images: 5
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'Joseph Beecham' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Joseph Beecham Self (Head)
Kate Hagan Spouse
Michael Beecham Child
Margaret Beecham Child
Kate Beecham Child
Daniel Beecham Child
Josephine Johanna Beecham Child

Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 14:55

Thanks Maddie, I have this.
It's been suggested his name was Joseph Beauchamp b1875, on checking it he has middle name Charles, parents as James Stephan Beauchamp and Sarah Stapin Tibbs.
Not sure I'm happy with this though.

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Nov 2019 14:56

what was his fathers occupation on marriage cert

Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 14:59

General Labourer Maddie.

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Nov 2019 15:03

could this be his father
1901
13, Urban Place, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England
Stephen Becham Head Married Male 41 1860 Laborer (General) Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Ellen Becham Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Stephen Becham Son Single Male 7 1894 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Ellen Becham Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Parey Dangerfield Step Son Single Male 21 1880 French Polisher Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Jane Dangerfield Step Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Firewood Cutter Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Minnie Dangerfield Step Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Tin Worker Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Harriet Dangerfield Step Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

malyon

malyon Report 19 Nov 2019 15:15

Deaths Mar 1926 (>99%)
Beecham Catherine 52 Lambeth 1d 237

Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 15:17

Going by the birth year of Stephen 1860 and knowing Joseph was born between 1868 and poss.1880, I don't think this is family. Thanks for trying.

Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 15:18

Thanks Malyon

malyon

malyon Report 19 Nov 2019 15:27

Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
Beauchamp Joseph Charles Fulham 1a 241

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Nov 2019 15:38

Who was Father on Marriage Cert., any Witness names, Address to help?...

Chris :)

(reference)
Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------
BEECHAM Joseph Wandsworth 1d 1231
Hogan Kate Wandsworth 1d 1231

(just seen Father above, Stephen Beecham)

Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 15:40

Hi Malyon
I been looking into this and it's not him as there is are military records for him,
(I have correct one showing wife and kids) Also your Joseph Charles married a Caroline Agnes Strutton 1909.
But thanks for trying .
Regards Les.

Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 15:46

Hi Chris
The 1901 m cert shows father as Stephen Beecham (deceased)
Witness names = J. Hogan, poss brother of Kate.
A. E. Wherest ? hard to read.
Residence = 28 Belfour St Battersea

malyon

malyon Report 19 Nov 2019 17:54

Stephen Beacham
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Name:
Stephen Beacham
Event Type:
Death
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year:
1881
Registration District:
Fulham
County:
London
Event Place:
Fulham, London, England
Volume:
1A
Page:
152
Affiliate Line Number:
199

malyon

malyon Report 19 Nov 2019 17:57

Stephen Beacham
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005
Name:
Stephen Beacham
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Place:
Fulham, London, England
Registration District:
Fulham
County:
London
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year:
1881
Volume:
1A
Page:
423
Affiliate Line Number:
269
Possible Spouse:
Henry Walford Aldous
Possible Spouse:
Mary Ann Jacobs
Possible Spouse:
Sarah Ann Mulley

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Nov 2019 17:57

Not a lot jumping out!, Whereat could be that Surname. If you have access to Ancestry, London Electoral Registers would need a 'combing through'...

Time needed on this, I think...

Chris :)

1911 (Reference)
Joseph Beecham Head Married Male 38 1873 Dealer In Flowers London Fulham
Catherine Beecham Wife Married Female 38 1873 - London Battersea
Michael Beecham Son - Male 9 1902 - London Battersea
Margaret Beecham Daughter - Female 1 1910 - London Battersea
(Mary ann Beecham, Daughter, crossed through)
7 Ponton St Battersea, Battersea, London & Surrey,
(says Married 10yrs, 4 children born, 2 living, 2 died)


1939. Joseph Beecham, 133, Lollard Street, Lambeth (Widower, Birthdate 17 Mar 68)

Deaths Jun 1965 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
BEECHAM JOSEPH 90 Lambeth 5d 75

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Nov 2019 18:09

That Death Malyon would be below...

Chris :)

Birth
BEACHAM, STEPHEN BRADD
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 253

Birth
BEACHAM, STEPHEN JACOBS
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 212


Deaths Dec 1881 (>99%)
Beacham Stephen 0 Fulham 1a 152


https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

(Death from above, with age)

Then check below for Births, gives Maiden Name of Mother.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

Leslie

Leslie Report 19 Nov 2019 23:15

Thanks Chris
I've got the 1911 census and I'll check out your other findings tomorrow.
Thanks again for your time.
Les