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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Dec 2019 09:57

GRO website gives mms for births in England/Wales 1837 - 1918.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

You have to register, but it's free to use.

It's easiest to find the likely birth on FreeBMD first, then check for mms on GRO.
GRO website requires the child's surname to be entered, whereas FreeBMD lets you search more easily for possible alternative spellings, etc., or search without any surname.

Sidami

Sidami Report 11 Dec 2019 08:36

Thankyou all so much...Shirley where did you find the info for mother’s maiden name Lamb? This was very confusing two families same names but thankyou so much fir your time.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 10 Dec 2019 18:25

Sidam,

You have the wrong children in George and Henry.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2019 18:17

1911 census

Henry Whiter
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Search Photos: Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 30 Streatley Buildings, Bethnal Green E C
Marital status: Married
Occupation: PRINTERS MACHINE MINDER
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Registration District Number: 17
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 1448
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Whiter 50
Eliza Whiter 48
Albert Whiter 22
Beatrice Whiter 18
Florrice Whiter 15
Fred Whiter 14

Married 31 years 7 chiodren born 6 still living

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Dec 2019 18:14

The Whiter family with children Albert, Beatrice, Freddy, etc is a different one from the family with Madeline and Henry on your other thread.

(Madeline & Henry's births on the other thread.)

Both sets of parents are called Henry and Eliza/Elizabeth, but one mother is Eliza Lamb, and the other is Elizabeth Chalkley/Chorkley.

Madeline & Henry's father is a cabinet maker in 1891.

The father of Beatrice et al is a printer in 1901. Not the same man.

WHITER, ALBERT EDWARD mms LAMB
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 233

WHITER, BEATRICE LOUISA mms LAMB
GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 247

WHITER, GEORGE ALFRED mms LAMB
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 225

WHITER, HENRY THOMAS mms LAMB
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 241


The other Henry (mms Chalkley) was born in 1890.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2019 18:14



Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
WHITER, HENRY THOMAS LAMB
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 241

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2019 18:12

Henry Whiter
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1860
Marriage Date: 21 Mar 1880
Marriage Place: St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney, England
Father: James Whiter
Spouse: Eliza Lamb
Register Type: Parish Register



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Name: Eliza Lamb
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1861
Marriage Date: 21 Mar 1880
Marriage Place: St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney, England
Father: Thomas Lamb
Spouse: Henry Whiter
Register Type: Parish Register



1901 census

Henry Whiter
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Eliza Whiter
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Search Photos: Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Great
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 284
Folio: 164
Page Number: 36
Household schedule number: 198
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Whiter 40 occ printer
Eliza Whiter 38
Henry Whiter 19
George Whiter 15
Albert Whiter 12
Beatrice Whiter 9
Flourey Whiter 6. Florrie !
Freddy Whiter 4

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2019 18:09

Her birth


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
WHITER, FLORENCE MAUD LAMB
GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 264

Her parents

Marriages Mar 1880
Lamb Eliza Shoreditch 1c 176
Whiter Henry Shoreditch 1c 176


You can check on the gro site for mothers maiden name

Sidami

Sidami Report 10 Dec 2019 17:32

Many many thanks the thing that is confusing me is her parents were married 1887 but on the census years the two children of George and Henry were born before parents marriage. 1882 and 1886

malyon

malyon Report 10 Dec 2019 16:50

Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%)
Whiter Florence M Langhorn Hackney 1b 762

malyon

malyon Report 10 Dec 2019 16:50

Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%)
Whiter Florence M Langhorn Hackney 1b 762

malyon

malyon Report 10 Dec 2019 16:49

she was born 1895 thats before the 1901 census

Kay????

Kay???? Report 10 Dec 2019 16:40


Sidam,
Florence White isn't on the 1901 census as she seems to be born after the census was taken in April.1901.


her birth reg.

***Births Sep 1895 **** (>99%)

Whiter
Florence Maud

Whitechapel
1c
264.


Her birth may have been a late entry into the GRO registers,? if this is her in 1901.



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Report issue
Name:
***Flourey Whiter***
Age:
6
Estimated birth year:
abt 1895
Relation to Head:
Daughter
Gender:
Female
Father:
Henry Whiter
Mother:
Eliza Whiter
Birth Place:
London, England
Civil Parish:
Bethnal Green
Search Photos:
Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish:
St James the Great
County/Island:
London
Country:
England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district:
Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district:
Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel:
13
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:
284
Folio:
164
Page Number:
36
Household schedule number:
198
Household Members:
Name
Age
Henry Whiter
40
Eliza Whiter
38
Henry Whiter
19
George Whiter
15
Albert Whiter
12
Beatrice Whiter
9
Flourey Whiter
6
Freddy Whiter
4
-----------------------------------------------

Same family in 1911,,note the spelling of her name.



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Report issue
Name:
*****Florrice***** Whiter
Age in 1911:
15
Estimated birth year:
abt 1896
Relation to Head:
Daughter
Gender:
Female
Birth Place:
Whitechapel
Civil Parish:
Bethnal Green
Search Photos:
Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island:
London
Country:
England
Street address:
30 Streatley Buildings, Bethnal Green E C
Marital status:
Single
Occupation:
BOX MAKER
Registration district:
Bethnal Green
Registration District Number:
17
Sub-registration district:
Bethnal Green South West
ED, institution, or vessel:
31
Piece:
1448
Household Members:
Name
Age
Henry Whiter
50
Eliza Whiter
48
Albert Whiter
22
Beatrice Whiter
18
Florrice Whiter
15
Fred Whiter
14
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malyon

malyon Report 10 Dec 2019 16:39

florence would be 16 yrs in 1911 so could be away from home

Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
Whiter Florence Maud Whitechapel 1c 264

malyon

malyon Report 10 Dec 2019 16:36

England and Wales Census, 1901
Name:
Flourey Florrie Whiter
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Bethnal Green, London, England, United Kingdom
County:
London, Middlesex
Civil Parish:
Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St James The Great
Sub-District:
Bethnal Green North
Registration District:
Bethnal Green
Gender:
Female
Age:
6
Relationship to Head of Household:
Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated):
1895
Birthplace:
London
Schedule Type:
198
Page Number:
36
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Henry Whiter Head Male 40 London
Eliza Whiter Wife Female 38 London
Henry Whiter Son Male 19 London
George Whiter Son Male 15 London
Albert Whiter Son Male 12 London
Beatrice Whiter Daughter Female 9 London
Flourey Florrie Whiter Daughter Female 6 London
Freddy Whiter Son Male 4 London

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Dec 2019 16:33

Query possibly best posted on your other thread about Elizabeth/ Eliza Chorley/Chorkley or other variations and her marriage to Henry

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1380823


Why not post the census you (or helpers) have found her on to help research.

Sidami

Sidami Report 10 Dec 2019 15:46

Found her but I am a bit confused with her siblings I have her parents as Henry Whiter and Elizabeth/Eliza Chorley but on the census years I find on 1901 /1911siblings Madeline and Henry but then on the other census years I have Henry George Albert Beatrice and Freddy? Not really sure can you help me please

Sidami

Sidami Report 10 Dec 2019 15:37

Can I have a second pair of eyes for Florence Whiter bn 1895 London on 1901/1911please thankyou

Sidami

Sidami Report 10 Dec 2019 13:34

Thankyou all for your help.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Dec 2019 13:25

Sidami

When asking for 1939 lookups for children, as you often do, please ensure that you include the names of their parents to facilitate searching.
As you know, records are closed if they are alive, or their deaths have not been picked up.