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I was wondering how long it would be before someone complained about the fact that beanie has no fewer than 6 posts just on this page about the Spencer family. Very confusing!

Some people! Erika, you are not being particularly helpful by being inflamatory. I will not be commenting further to you as you are clearly intending to troll (very specifically against the site rules). For anybody else, please read the above regarding the practical logistics. Many thanks.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1380841

Plus countless others about assorted Spencers, which is contrary to site guidelines

Thanks for this. I should really say - "Strictly no census pastes" - I can appreciate that people are trying to be helpful but if someone has access to Ancestry, they will have access to census records anyway.

The Spencer family is incredibly large and i've been researching them for a considerable amount of time. I've always tried to garner consensus. Without posts about different branches and generations, it's very difficult for people to be able to get the information that they need, furthermore, when new information comes to light and brings old information into dispute, it makes sense not to comment on an age old post that will not garner replies - on forums across the board, old posts do not attract new responses and it's general ettiquete to open a new post on a new subject hence my approach.

Thanks everyone.

Thomas, you have so many threads about Spencer family that it is no wonder you are confused. Everyone else justs gets confused too which is why Genes has the rule that you should only post one thread about each family.

You really need to stick to one thread and as far as I can see going backwards from your grandparents then the Thomas Spencer who marries Mary Ann Holmes is the correct family and this parish marriage record confirms that his father is George, so the 1825 baptism can't be him. Much more likely that the date of birth on the census is out by a year and the baptism of Thomas in 1824 with father George and mother Ann is the right one.

Only you can decide if this is right and the more times you ask the more opinions you will get.

Kath. x

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Census Year County Place Civil Parish Ecclesiastical Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page Schedule House Number House or Street Name
1891 Warwickshire (WAR) Atherstone Grendon All Saints 2442 10 150 22 128 -
Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Sex Age Occupation Birth County Birth Place Disability Notes
HOLMES Sarah Annie Head W F 58 Living On Own Means MDX London
SPENCER Harriet Elizabeth Servnt S F 14 Srvnt Dom WAR Atherstone

Hang on - thanks for this but what often happens is people post a lot of census information rather than actually entering into correspondence on the question. It's not my fault if the same pile of census information lands....

I'm still none the wiser on the original question? Two Thomas' which one?

Thanks though.

All done before. More than once

a lot of this posted on thread of 12th dec

Snap, Alviegal!


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Ann Eaves
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Ann Eaves
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 01 Dec 1799
Christening Date (Original): 01 DEC 1799
Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,COVENTRY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Charles Eaves
Mother's Name: Ann

Just a thought for their marriage.

First name(s) George
Last name Spencer
Name note -
Marriage year 1815
Marriage date 23 Jan 1815
Marriage place Coventry
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Eaves
County Warwickshire

Another couple of sons of George and Ann:

George Spencer
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: George Spencer
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Nov 1817
Christening Date (Original): 07 NOV 1817
Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,COVENTRY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: George Spencer
Mother's Name: Ann


Henry Spencer
England, Warwickshire, Parish Registers, 1535-1963
Name: Henry Spencer
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 29 Apr 1828
Event Place: St Michael, Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: George Spencer
Mother's Name: Ann Spencer

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That 1841 you posted AG with an address. Thomas is the same address in 1841.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Agnes Lane, Holy Trinity, Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Eliza Spencer Female 26 1815 Warwickshire, England
Ann Spencer Female 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
Sarah Spencer Female 18 1823 Warwickshire, England
Mary Spencer Female 12 1829 Warwickshire, England
Mary Spencer Female 0 1841 Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Spencer
Sex Male
Marital status Single
Residence Chauntry Place
Marriage year 1847
Marriage date 28 Feb 1847
Marriage place Coventry, Holy Trinity
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Holmes
Spouse's sex Female
Spouse's marital status Single
Spouse's residence Cook Street
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Spencer
Spouse's father's first name(s) Samuel
Spouse's father's last name Holmes
County Warwickshire
Country England

More daughters of George and Ann:

Sarah Spencer
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Sarah Spencer
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 Nov 1821
Christening Date (Original): 12 NOV 1821
Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,COVENTRY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: George Spencer
Mother's Name: Ann


Eliza Spencer
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Eliza Spencer
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 10 Jul 1815
Christening Date (Original): 10 JUL 1815
Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,COVENTRY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: George Spencer
Mother's Name: Ann



And therefore, Ann with daughters in 1841 ??

Mary Spencer
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Mary Spencer
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Hundred: Coventry
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Coventry
Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity
Neighbors:
Piece: 1153
Book: 5
Folio: 26
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Spencer 26 - silk winder
Ann Spencer 40
Sarah Spencer 18
Mary Spencer 12
Mary Spencer 6 Mo
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Birth of 6-month-old Mary ??

SPENCER, MARY ANN -
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in THE CITY OF COVENTRY Volume 16 Page 338

Warwickshire Baptisms

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Spencer
Birth year -
Baptism year 1824
Baptism date 05 Jan 1824
Denomination Anglican
Place Coventry, St Michael
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Spencer
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Residence St Michales
Father's occupation Weaver
County Warwickshire
Country England



Warwickshire Baptisms

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Spencer
Birth year -
Baptism year 1825
Baptism date 11 Apr 1825
Denomination Anglican
Place Coventry, St Michael
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Spencer
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Residence St Michales
Father's occupation Weaver
County Warwickshire

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Warwickshire Baptisms

First name(s) Mary Ann
Last name Spencer
Birth year -
Baptism year 1829
Baptism date 13 Jul 1829
Denomination Anglican
Place Coventry, St Michael
>>Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Spencer
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Residence St Michaels
Father's occupation Weaver

Thomas 1825, who you are asking about. He is a weaver's app.


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Agnes Lane, Holy Trinity, Coventry, Warwickshire, England

James Ward Male 38 1803 Warwickshire, England
Ann Ward Female 42 1799 Warwickshire, England
David Ward Male 19 1822 Warwickshire, England
Ann Ward Female 11 1830 Warwickshire, England
Sarah Ward Female 10 1831 Warwickshire, England
Harriett Ward Female 8 1833 Warwickshire, England
Thomas Spencer Male 16 1825 Warwickshire, England
William Porter Male 23 1818 Warwickshire, England
William Hill Male 23 1818 Warwickshire, England




1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Brick Kiln Lane, St Michaels, Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Thomas Spencer Head Married Male 26 1825 Ribbon Weaver Hand Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Mary Ann Spencer Wife Married Female 25 1826 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Ann Spencer Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Emma Spencer Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England
>>Mary Ann Spencer Sister Unmarried Female 22 1829 Shute Filler Coventry, Warwickshire, England


May be worth looking for his sister's baptism record.

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First name(s) Thomas
Last name Spencer
Birth year -
Baptism year 1825
Baptism date 11 Apr 1825
Denomination Anglican
Place Coventry, St Michael
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Spencer
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Residence St Michales
Father's occupation Weaver
County Warwickshire
Country England
Document type Parish registers
Archive
Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference DR0090/15
Event Baptisms
Page 267
Records year range 1819-1825

THOMAS
Last name SPENCER
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1847
Mary Ann Holmes

thomas with father goerge

Thomas
Last name Spencer
Birth year -
Baptism year 1824
Baptism date 05 Jan 1824
Denomination Anglican
Place Coventry, St Michael
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Spencer
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Residence St Michales
Father's occupation Weaver
County Warwickshire
Country England
Document type Parish registers
Archive
Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference DR0090/15
Event Baptisms
Page 205
Records year range 1819-1825

What do you make of the other potential Father Thomas? Thanks