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info from Fold3 site --update 2024

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Sylann Report 31 Jan 2020 16:28

Just wondering if any one has membership for Fold3
Still trying to find info about my John McAlpine born about 1785 in Scotland
1841 census he was in Linlithgow with his wife Margaret both down as 55 born in Scotland but not in county with them was their Daughter Stewart Cowie aged 15 down as son, born in Linlithgow Scotland, When he married in 1807 Haddington he was in the Berwickshire Militia ,So this is why I'm after some one who has membership for Fold3, They seem to have a few John McAlpine's , I think this is the only way I can find out anymore about him I've got all the deaths for John between 1841 and 1861 when his son death certificate had his parents was deceased

fingers crossed


ErikaH Report 31 Jan 2020 19:40

Fold3 offer a 7 day free trial

Not sure they have any non-American records


Maddie Report 1 Feb 2020 16:26

is this the fold 3

Name: Private John McAlpine
Enlistment Age: 22
Discharge Age: 41
Birth Date: abt 1785
Birth Place: St Ninicans Stirling
Enlistment Year: 1807
Discharge Year: 1826
Regiment: 75th Regt Of Foot


Maddie Report 1 Feb 2020 16:33

in the UK, Royal Hospital, Chelsea: Regimental Registers of Pensioners, 1713-1882
Name: John McAlpin
Residence Date: 19 Dec 1826
Document Type: Regimental Registers of Pensioners
died 20/04/1862
residece glasgow


Kay???? Report 1 Feb 2020 18:34

FIndmypast also holds the same records to view with sub if its exsists it may have details of his discharge

hes under as Jno McAlpine.


SylviaInCanada Report 1 Feb 2020 23:58

The FMP record shown by Kay doesn't appear to be him, IF it has been transcribed correctly!

British Army Service Records

First name(s) Jno
Last name McAlpine
Birth year -
Year 1836
Regiment Rifle Brigade
Regiment / service number as transcribed Rifle Brigade
Candidacy year 1836
Pension age 39
Parish Lanark
County Lanarkshire
Series Wo 23 - Royal Hospital Chelsea: Admission Books, Registers, And Papers 1702-1876
The National Archives
Archive reference WO 23
Piece number 8
Piece description Admission books.
Year range 1836
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Armed Forces & Conflict

from image:-

It does indeed say age 39 -> birth year of ca 1797

Rank:- Sergeant
Compliant:- Chronic Cough and Defective Sight
Granted Out Pension of £5
Intending to live in Glasgow

I think this might be the same John Mcalpin posted by Maddie as being in residence in Chelsea in 1926


ArgyllGran Report 2 Feb 2020 16:42

Only US records are on Fold3 if you go direct to their website.

But there are UK records if you access them through Ancestry, plus a Fold3 membership (or 7-day free trial).

However, I don't see any likely looking John McAlpine army records on Ancestry.
Lots of John McAlpines, but none that look as if they might be the right one, if he was living in the Linlithgow/Haddington/general Edinburgh-ish area.

There's this one in Musselburgh, but not Berwickshire Militia. This is a list of serjeants:

John McAlpine
in the UK, British Army Muster Books and Pay Lists, 1812-1817
Name: John McAlpine
Start of Muster: 25 Dec 1812
End of Muster: 24 Mar 1813
Stationed or Muster Place: Musselburgh Barracks
Regiment or Unit: 1st Regiment of Foot (Royal Scots), 4th Battalion
Piece Number: 2019

Image viewable on Ancestry - no need for Fold3 for this one.


Sylann Report 28 Mar 2024 16:08

Apparently I've asked for info before but just to put my mind at rest can anyone look at this record please
UK Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Service Records 1760- 1920
Private John McAlpine
Age 22
Discharge age 41
Birth date 1785
Birth Place St Ninicans Stirling
Enlistment year 1807
Discharge year 1826
75 reg of foot

This is all I can see on ancestry but wondering what else the original certificate says. The dates seem to match my John McAlpine and as I don't know where he was born !!


ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2024 16:50

It seems ONLY to be on Fold3, so you will need to take out a free trial

If anyone one here had paid for Fold3, they would have looked at it for you when you asked originally


Sylann Report 28 Mar 2024 16:55

Thanks I've tried for the 7 day trail but it won't go through


ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2024 17:02

Posting for INFO..................

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland
John McAlpin Male 55 1786 Scotland Occupation Shoem
Margaret McAlpin Female 55 1786 Scotland
Stewart McAlpin Male 15 1826 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland
Archibald McLean Male 20 1821 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland
Archibald Crooks Male 20 1821 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland

When did he die? Have you looked at the death cert?


ArgyllGran Report 28 Mar 2024 17:02

More about that man on Ancestry - ie - the St Ninians man:

John McAlpin
in the Edinburgh, Scotland, Army Attestation Registers, 1796-1857
Name John McAlpin
Attestation Age 22
Birth Date abt 1785
Residence Date 1807
Military Regiment 75th
Attestation Date 24 Aug 1807
Attestation Place Edinburgh, Scotland

As far as I can see, the 75th Regiment of Foot was nothing to do with the Berwickshire Militia.

Link to other previous thread(s):


ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2024 17:07

Yes, it's been looked at repeatedly for many years.........................


alviegal Report 28 Mar 2024 20:44

Not sure if this has been posted on other threads.

First name(s) John
Country Scotland
Last name McCalpane
Witness 1 Gaven Joan
Banns year 1807
Witness 2 Geo McCalpin
Banns date 18 Sep 1807
Archive reference OPR 709/6
Marriage year 1807
Item 2
Occupation Soldier in the 26th regt dragoon
Year range 1622-1819
Spouse's first name Margaret
Page 401
Spouse's last name Donaldson
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Spouse's residence Haddington
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Haddington
Subcategory Parish Marriages
County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland


ArgyllGran Report 28 Mar 2024 22:55

I looked at the 1807 marriage record on SP last year.

The transcription posted by Alviegal contains mistakes.

The original says he was a soldier in the Berwickshire Militia, as Sylann has said.

It was a William Horn, whose marriage is listed above John McAlpin's on the original document, who was in the 26th Regiment.

Also, John's surname is spelled McCalpin on the document, not McCalpane.

And -
the "cautioners" ( a bit more than witnesses - more like guarantors) were Gavin Tosh and George McCalpin


ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2024 11:10

The marriage and the 1841 census both show the name with NO 'e' on the end....................I know that isn't necessarily 100%, but surely the OP should be looking in the first instance for records with that spelling

Birth of child also NO 'e'

120 / 36

Same when she married


alviegal Report 29 Mar 2024 12:27

Thanks Argyll for that. Bit worrying the mistakes made in the transcription :-(


ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2024 12:41

NOTE....consistently NO 'e'

120 / 23

40 / 716


Jink20 Report 29 Mar 2024 16:15

I found this on Scribd. It is a very informative read which may offer you additional avenues of enquiry that you may not have been aware of.

Some Scottish Sources on Militias, Fencibles and Volunteer Corps.
1793 – 1830
Professor Arnold Morrison

On page 39 is the following extract which suggests the below records are held at the National Archives of Scotland

B48 Linlithgow Burgh.List of men 17-55 in Dalmeny, WestLothian,1803.Militia EnrolmentLists for Queensferry,Bathgate and Linlithgow, 1816-20.Receipts for Family Allowances. Parish List for Livingston, 1808.

************See also, SC41/96/1 which has over 300 family allowances recorded in
Linlithgow ,1809-15, most for the Berwickshire Militia ************************


Jink20 Report 29 Mar 2024 16:47

Woodbridge Barracks, plan & elevations
This record is held by Suffolk Archives - Ipswich
Reference: P630
Title: Woodbridge Barracks, plan & elevations
Copy of plan and elevations of Woodbridge barracks as erected in 1804. Surveyed and drawn by Isaac Johnson

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