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Helen elliott

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caza

caza Report 14 Feb 2020 11:26

Who are her parents ?she married Charles James sparkes in cardiff they had 4 children the 1911 census has her age as 28 born in Glamorgan can find no birth record for 1883 any free l find has her birth as 1990 help please thanks

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Feb 2020 11:46

Helen
Last name Elliott
Age 23
Birth year 1882
Event year 1905
Banns year -
Marriage year 1905
Marriage date 22 Aug 1905
Marriage place Grangetown
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Elliott
Spouse's first name(s) Charles James
Spouse's last name Sparkes
Spouse's age 23
Spouse's birth year 1882
Spouse's father's last name Sparkes
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Chapman -------
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage
Page 178

1939
29 St Fagan's Street, Cardiff C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales
e(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Helen Sparkes 29 Jun 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 205 1
Thomas G Sparkes 22 Apr 1907 Male Ammunition Worker Rectifying Single 205 2

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2020 11:52

For our reference:

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
ELLIOTT Helen Cardiff 11a 534
Sparkes Charles James Cardiff 11a 534




MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Feb 2020 11:57

From Ancestry:

Helen Sparkes

in the 1911 Wales Census
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Name: Helen Sparkes
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Cardiff
Search Photos: Search for 'Cardiff' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 26 Oakley St Grange Cardiff
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 5
Estimated Marriage Year: 1906
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration District Number: 588
Sub-registration district: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 161
Piece: 32161
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles James Sparkes 28
Helen Sparkes 28
Frederick Charles Sparkes 4
Thomas George Sparkes 3
Canstance Helen Louisa Sparkes 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2020 11:57

???

Helen Elliott
in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: Helen Elliott
Age in 1901: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Central Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 4981
Folio: 79
Page Number: 24


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2020 12:09

EDIT: Oops! already posted.

Helen Sparkes
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Helen Sparkes
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widowed
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1882
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 29
Residence Place: Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Occupation: Unpaid domestic duties
Schedule Number: 205
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: XGJY
Registration district: 588/2
Household Members:
Name
Helen Sparkes
Thomas G Sparkes

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Feb 2020 12:20

1891 ????????????????
Francis Terrace, Penarth Road, Canton, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
George Eliott Head Married Male 30 1861 Masons Labourer Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Constance Eliott Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Bridgwater, Somerset, England
Ellen Eliott Daughter - Female 10 1881 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Beatrice Eliott Daughter - Female 8 1883 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Alma Eliott Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Edith Eliott Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

ame: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ELLIOTT, BEATRICE MAUD HARRIS
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in OF CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 265

Mother's Maiden Surname:
ELLIOTT, EDITH JANE HARRIES
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 351

nothing on gro for helen or ellen

GEORGE
Last name ELLIOTT
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1880
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


GEORGE ELLIOTT married one of these people

Sarah Webb Rowe, Constance Lucy Harris
District Cardiff
District number -

Elizabeth Elener
Last name Elliott
Birth year 1886
Birth date ? ? 1886
Baptism year 1886
Baptism date 05 May 1886
Place Cardiff, St Mary
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Constance

guess not unless she changed her name to helen

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2020 12:29

Yes, had just arrived at that couple as a possibility:

George Elliott
in the 1881 Wales Census
Name: George Elliott
[George Harris]
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Leckwith
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 4 North St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors:
Piece: 5284
Folio: 12
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Harris 50
Ellen Harris 50
Henry William Harris 21
Constant Lucy Elliott 19
Ann Helmer Betrescitmelia Harris 16
Walter Fisher Benjamin Harris 12
Earnest Llewellyn Hatch Harris 10
Clifford Thomas Harris 6
George Elliott 20

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2020 12:30

???

ELLIOTT, ELLEN ELIZABETH ANN mms HARRIS
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 258

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2020 12:35

It would be useful to know George's occupation from Helen's marriage cert.

George Elliott
in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: George Elliott
Age in 1901: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse: Constance Elliott
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Canton
Ecclesiastical parish: Canton St Paul
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 245
Piece: 4987
Folio: 166
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
George Elliott 39 - gas stoker
Constance Elliott 38
Alma Elliott 14
Edith Jane Elliott 10
Lydia A Elliott 8
Geo W Elliott 4
Constance M Elliott 2


Geo Elliott
in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Geo Elliott
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 1 North St Cardiff
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration District Number: 588
Sub-registration district: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 395
Piece: 32156
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo Elliott 49
Coustance Elliott 49
Geo Elliott 15
Annie Elliott 18

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Feb 2020 12:49

she does't seem to appear in any census under that name but helen sparkes has c daughter constance
coincidence ?????

caza

caza Report 14 Feb 2020 12:58

Thank you to everyone

malyon

malyon Report 14 Feb 2020 13:05

Helen Elliott
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name:
Helen Elliott
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom
County:
Glamorganshire
Civil Parish:
St Mary
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary
Sub-District:
Central Cardiff
Registration District:
Cardiff
Gender:
Female
Age:
18
Occupation:
GENERAL SERVANT (DOMESTIC)
Relationship to Head of Household:
Servant
Birth Year (Estimated):
1883
Birthplace:
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Schedule Type:
71
Page Number:
24
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
James Griffiths Head Male 31 Fishguard, Pembrokeshire
Hannah Owen Step Sister Female 25 Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Caroline J Bryant Servant Female 33 Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Edith L Griffin Servant Female 20 Lea, Gloucestershire
Helen Elliott Servant Female 18 Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Edmund J Jones Lodger Male 49 Swansea, Glamorganshire
Lewis W Gray Lodger Male 30 Swansea, Glamorganshire
William J Jenkins Lodger Male 26 Swansea, Glamorganshire
Albert E Lanman Lodger Male 30 Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Phillip H Babbage Lodger Male 35 Bridgewater, Somersetshire
Charles Phillips Lodger Male 47 Peterchurch, Herefordshire
Frank Trott Lodger Male 24 Taunton, Somersetshire

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2020 13:07

Already posted, Malyon.

malyon

malyon Report 14 Feb 2020 13:07

Helen Sparkes
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name:
Helen Sparkes
Event Type:
Death
Registration Quarter:
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year:
1964
Registration District:
Cardiff
County:
Glamorganshire
Event Place:
Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Age:
81
Birth Year (Estimated):
1883
Volume:
8B
Page:
147
Affiliate Line Number:
128

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2020 13:21

Marriage record posted by Maddie shows her father as George Elliott.

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Feb 2020 14:29

HARRIS, CONSTANCE LUCY ANN HATCH
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 532

ELLIOTT, GEORGE JONES
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 215

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Feb 2020 14:40

lucy's parents and brother
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Polden Street, Bridgwater, Somerset, England
Benjamin Hatch Head Widower Male 60 1801 Cordwainer Huntspill, Somerset, England
Walter Harris Son In Law Married Male 30 1831 Agricultural Labourer Bruton, Somerset, England
Ellen Harris Daughter Married Female 29 1832 - Bridgwater, Somerset, England
Henry W Harris Grandson - Male 1 1860 - Bridgwater, Somerset, England

HARRIS, HENRY WILLIAM HATCH
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 488

Maddie

Maddie Report 14 Feb 2020 15:39

george's parents
Name: Johanna Jones
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Pembroke
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 783
George Elliott

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Rosemary Street, Llandaff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
George Elliott Head - Male 43 1828 - Somerset, England
Joanha Elliott Wife - Female 39 1832 - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Sarah Jane Elliott - - Female 13 1858 - Glamorgan, Wales
George Elliott - - Male 10 1861 - Glamorgan, Wales
Henry John Elliott - - Male 6 1865 - Glamorgan, Wales
William Elliott - - Male 3 1868 - Glamorgan, Wales
Albert Elliott - - Male 1 1870 - Glamorgan, Wales
Elizabeth Elliott - - Female 8 1863 - Glamorgan, Wales

ELLIOTT, HENRY JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 250