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Looking for the 1841 census for this Hulme family

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cane

cane Report 18 Feb 2020 16:48

Good Afternoon
I have the 1851 census for the Hulme (Hulen) familyThey are living in Macclesfield Cheshire.They are all born here.
Address: 18 Black road Macclesfield, Cheshire
Titus Hulme,head,married age 28,Painter abt 1823
Mary Hulme wife age 35 abt 1816
james Hulme son age 7 abt 1844
mary Hulme daugh age 4month abt 1851
Titus Hulme,son age 2

1861 census
Titus Hulme head age 37,painter born macclesfeild
Mary Hulme wife 1816
james Hulme 1845
Titus Hulme son 1850 (married Mary ann tipton in 1871)
Mary Hulme daughter 1851
Caroline Hulme 1853
Jeffrey hulme1855
Sophia Hulme 1859

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Feb 2020 17:05

By the look of the ages of the children doesn’t look like they may have been married for the 1841 census

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:06

Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
BRADLEY Mary Macclesfield 19 151
CALDERBANK Joseph Macclesfield 19 151
CULLEY Samuel Macclesfield 19 151
CULLODEN Catharine Macclesfield 19 151
Hopkinson Mary Macclesfield 19 151
HULME Titus Macclesfield 19 151
Perkin Elizabeth Macclesfield 19 151
POWNALL John Macclesfield 19 151

married in 1847 so they won't be together in 1841


HULME, JAMES -
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 87
No mmn for James

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Feb 2020 17:06

Titus married 1847, onm his late baptism 1837 father henry ( a stone mason ) and mother Mary.

Titus
Last name Hulme
Birth year 1822
Birth date 30 Nov 1822
Baptism year 1837
Baptism date 28 Jun 1837
Place Sutton
Birth place as transcribed Sutton, Prestbury
Denomination Wesleyan Methodist
Father's first name(s) Henry
Mother's first name(s) Mary
County Cheshire
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/423
Description CHESHIRE: Sutton, Macclesfield, Brunswick Chapel (Wesleyan): Births & Baptisms

Not immediately seeing Titus in 1841 though

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Feb 2020 17:07

Record Transcription:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Smelt Houses, Prestbury, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England



Henry Hulme Male 50 1791 Cheshire, England ( Stone mason)

Mary Hulme Female 45 1796 Cheshire, England
Mary Ann Hulme Female 20 1821 Cheshire, England
Titus Hulme Male 15 1826 Cheshire, England ( painter)

Martha Hulme Female 15 1826 -
Ann Hulme Female 14 1827 Cheshire, England
Charlotte Hulme Female 12 1829 Cheshire, England

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:09

HULME, MARY BRADLEY
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 112

So MMN is Bradley

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Feb 2020 17:11

Dec 1847
BRADLEY Mary Macclesfield 19 151
HULME Titus Macclesfield 19 151


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HULME, TITUS BRADLEY
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 116

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:15

Titus may have been in prison in 1841

Name: Titus Hulme
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Date of Trial: 19 Oct 1840
Trial Year: 1840
Location of Trial: Cheshire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

EDIT:- No, he only got 3mths
but if he had a brother James (aged 26), then he got 7 years.

cane

cane Report 18 Feb 2020 17:19

:-) Many thanke everyone
Could someone explain this please>>William Woolly is with the family on the 1871 census and is described as stepson :-S

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:20

possible for Mary

Name: Mary Bradley
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Prestbury
Hundred: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Occupation:
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: East Macclesfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 131
Book: 14
Folio: 9
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Jeffery Bradley 55
Dinah Bradley 55
Jeffery Bradley Junr 30
Mary Bradley 25
Hannah Bradley 20
Moses Bradley 20
Joseph Bradley 7
William Bradley 1

cane

cane Report 18 Feb 2020 17:20

Wow thank you Catherine :-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:21

other possible for Mary

Name: Mary Bradley
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Prestbury
Hundred: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Occupation:
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: West Macclesfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 132
Book: 4
Folio: 4
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Aliyel Bradley 50
Mary Bradley 25
John Bradley 20
Wilam Bradley 18


marriage cert. would confirm which is correct one.

cane

cane Report 18 Feb 2020 17:27

I can,t thank you all enough...Cheers :-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:30

WOOLLEY, WILLIAM BRADLEY
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 100

mothers maiden name is Bradley so either Mary had a fling or maybe William is one of her sister's sons and Mary and Titus brought him up ??

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:34

mmm

Marriages Mar 1839 (>99%)
**** BRADLEY Mary Macclesfield 19 81
GRINDY dorothy Macclesfield 19 81
HELLABY John Macclesfield 19 81
MOSS William Macclesfield 19 81
MULLISS Anne Macclesfield 19 81
**** WOOLLEY William Macclesfield 19 81

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:35

Here he is in 1851

Name: William Brasley
[William Bradley]
[William Woolley]
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Macclesfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Rainow
ED, institution, or vessel: 4q
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Piece: 2159
Folio: 495
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Jeffrey Brasley 68
Dinah Brasley 66
Hannah Brasley 33
Joseph Brasley 17
William Brasley 11
.......................

Name: William Woolley
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Macclesfield, Chester, England
Baptism Date: 15 Mar 1840
Baptism Place: St Michael, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Father: William Woolley
Mother: Mary Woolley
FHL Film Number: 1656953

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:40

If you check my first possible 1841 for Mary Bradley you will see that there is a William Bradley aged 1, my thinking is that this may be William Woolley, Mary's son and that her marriage to William Woolley didn't last and she went back home to live.
William is with his uncle in 1851 so he was probably brought up by the family.

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:49

Same person in 1861

Name: William H Bradley
[William H Woolley]
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: 1840
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Macclesfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: East Macclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 2579
Folio: 122
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Jeffrey Bradley 78 - Butcher
William H Bradley 21 - Butcher

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Feb 2020 17:49

Just for ref the baptisms on FMP incl for Titus

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=TNA/RG4/BAP/249798

Mother Mary's maiden name given as Hutchinson.

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Feb 2020 17:54

1871

Name: William Woolly
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: 1841
Relation: Stepson
Gender: Male
Where born: Macclesfield Cheshire England
Civil Parish: Ardwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 295
Piece: 3978
Folio: 117
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Titus Hulme 54
Mary Hulme 59
Titus Hulme 21
Mary Hulme 20
Caroline Hulme 18
Jeffery Hulme 15
Sophia Hulme 13
William Woolly 30

shows William Woolly's occupation as Butcher so looks to be him in the other census records.