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Elsom Guyatt in Australian electoral rolls

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Ronald

Ronald Report 28 Feb 2020 09:02

Would someone be kind enough to look up the above on the World Ancestry site please? I am researching the Guyatt family for a friend and found reference to Elsom on the British site.
Many thanks in advance.
Ron

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 09:53

Name: Elsom Guyatt
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1908
Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Capricornia, Queensland, Australia



Name: Elson Guyatt
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1862
Place of Origin: Sussex, England
Ship Name: Dacca
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 9 Mar 1886


Name: Elson Guyatt
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1862
Arrival Date: 9 Mar 1886
Arrival Place: Queensland, Australia
Ship: Dacca
Title: Assisted Immigration 1848 to 1912
Page Number: 109
QSA Item: 18483
Microfilm: Z1962
Microfilm 2: M1701 M1702


Name: Elsom Guyatt
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1903
Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Wide Bay, Queensland, Australia

Name: Elsom Guyatt
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1905
Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Wide Bay, Queensland, Australia

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 09:54

Name: Ellen Elizabeth Guyatt
Birth Date: 9 May 1899
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1899
Registration Place: Queensland, Australia
Father: William Elsom Guyatt
Mother: Kate Mcdonald
Page Number: 10264
Registration Number: 000739


Name: Ellen Elizabeth Guyatt
Gender: Female
Electoral Date: 1980
Electoral Place: Norman, Griffith, Queensland, Australia

Name: Alexander Guyatt
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1903
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Place: Queensland, Australia
Father: William Elsom Guyatt
Mother: Catherine Mcdonald
Page Number: 10264
Registration Number: 000502




Name: Alexander GuyattName: Alexander Guyatt
Spouse Name: Dorothy Entwistle
Marriage Date: 21 Jul 1934
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1934
Registration Number: 002441
Page Number: 1019


Death Date: 22 Jun 1984
Cemetery: Bundaberg Crematorium and Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Bundaberg, Bundaberg Region, Queensland, Australia
Has Bio?: N


Name: Elsie Annie Guyatt
Birth Date: 3 Apr 1898
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Place: Queensland, Australia
Father: William Elsom Guyatt
Mother: Kate Mcdonald
Page Number: 10264
Registration Number: 000718


Name: Elsie Annie Guyatt
Spouse Name: Eric Silvester Robinson
Marriage Date: 15 Jun 1929
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1929
Registration Number: B006220
Page Number: 1592

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 09:58

Name: William Elsom Guyatt
Spouse Name: Kate McDonald
Marriage Date: 07 Feb 1894
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Number: 000096
Page Number: 10265


Name: William Elsom Guyatt
Death Date: 12 Oct 1938
Death Place: Queensland
Father's name: William
Mother's name: Annie Elsom
Registration Year: 1938
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 004012
Page Number: 747


Name: William Elsom Guyatt
Year: 1939
Place: Queensland, Australia
District: Southern
Will Number: 1939/378
Item ID: 744052
Prev Sys: SCT/P2236
Microfilm Number: n/a
File Name: Wills1901-1940

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Feb 2020 10:18

I'm assuming you have his pre-Australia info?

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
GUYATT Thomas Elcon Westbourne 2b 345
Guyatt William Elsom Westbourne 2b 345

The Thomas above seems to be a mistake - no such birth on the GRO Index.


William Elson Guyatt
in the 1861 England Census
Name: William Elson Guyatt
[Willian Elson Guyatt]
Age: 3/12
Estimated birth year: 1861
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Guyatt
Mother's name: Anne Ellen Guyatt
Gender: Male
Where born: Westbourne, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Westbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Westbourne
Sub-registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 2
Piece: 630
Folio: 87
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
William Guyatt 28
Anne Ellen Guyatt 27
William Elson Guyatt 3/12


William Uran Guyatt
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William Uran Guyatt
[William Elsom Guyatt]
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1861
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Westbourne Sussex England
Civil Parish: Westbourne
Town: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Westbourne
Sub-registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 139a
Piece: 1124
Folio: 71
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
William Guyatt 38
Ann Ellen Guyatt 37
William Uran Guyatt 10
Earnest Jas Guyatt 8
Mark Fredk Guyatt 6
Frank Guyatt 4
Ellen Retckab Guyatt 2


William E. Guyatt
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William E. Guyatt
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Guyatt
Mother: Ann Ellen Guyatt
Gender: Male
Where born: Westbourne, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Elsted
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: The Village
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Ag Lab
Registration district: Midhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Piece: 1133
Folio: 33
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
William Guyatt 49
Ann Ellen Guyatt 47
William E. Guyatt 20
Ernest J. Guyatt 18
Mark F.J. Guyatt 16
Frank Guyatt 14
Ellen R. Guyatt 12
Elizabeth H. Guyatt 9
Edgar C. Guyatt 7
Stephen Guyatt

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Feb 2020 10:27

William Elsom Guyatt
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: William Elsom Guyatt
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1925
Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Capricornia, Queensland, Australia

He's a farmer at Triangle Farm, with Alexander, farmer; Catherine, home duties; Nellie Elizabeth, home duties; and Elsie Annie, home duties.


Same in 1930:

William Elsom Guyatt
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: William Elsom Guyatt
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1930
Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Capricornia, Queensland, Australia

Same address in 1919, but only William and Catherine:

There's also an Albert Edgar Guyatt at Walla Road, Gin Gin in 1919 - related?

Ronald

Ronald Report 28 Feb 2020 10:29

Wow Erika, thanks so much for all this information. The Elsom name is common as a middle name in the Guyatts I have already found. Need to check the names against my records as I hadn't had Elsom Guyatt.
My friend is having a family get together tomorrow to celebrate his grandfather's 138th birthday and have a genealogy chat. Should be interesting.
Many thanks again,
Ron

Ronald

Ronald Report 28 Feb 2020 10:32

And thanks ArgyllGran for your input too. Need to check your information. Looks like I'm going to be busy today.
Have a good day
Ron

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 10:41

If you need anything further, just ask..............

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Feb 2020 10:41

Albert may have nothing to do with William Elsom, but will post this in case

[EDIT: Albert is William's nephew - see next post ]:


Birth:
GUYATT, ALBERT EDGAR mms SADLER
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in GUILDFORD Volume 02A Page 57



Albert Edgar Guyatt
in the Web: Queensland, Australia, Immigration Indexes, 1848-1972
Name: Albert Edgar Guyatt
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1893
Arrival Date: 1914
Arrival Place: Queensland, Australia
Source Card Name: Albert Edgar Guyatt
Ship: Osterley
Title: Card Index to Nominated Immigrants 1908 to 1922
Item ID: 868957
Ref: IMM/330
Microfilm: Z7750



Bertie Guyatt
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Bertie Guyatt
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pirbright, Surrey
Civil Parish: Worthing
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: 27 Gloucester Place Worthing
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Porter
Registration district: East Preston
Registration District Number: 84
Sub-registration district: Worthing
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 5334
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest James Guyatt 48
Eliza Guyatt 47
Bertie Guyatt 18
Edith Guyatt 16
Percy Guyatt 15
Ernest Guyatt 12
Leonard Guyatt 9
Chrissie Guyatt 8


Albert E Guyatt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Albert E Guyatt
Registration Date: Oct 1917
[Nov 1917]
[Dec 1917]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: East Preston
Inferred County: Sussex
Spouse: Eva F Pratley
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 912


Albert Edgar Guyatt
in the Australia, WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Albert Edgar Guyatt
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birth Place: Lesbright, England
Dossier Year Range: 1914-1920
Enlistment Place: Bundaberg, Queensland
Service Number: 3148
Spouse: E F Guyatt


On his Australian army record, Eva is listed as his wife and NOK (added after 1917 marriage obviously). Her address is given as 150 Tarring Road, Worthing, Sussex.
Previously, his mother was listed as NOK.
He was fighting in France in September 1917.
Wounded in action , October 1917, and sent back to England.
Back to France in April 1918.
Again wounded in action in France, August 1918.
Discharged in England as medically unfit in November 1918.

Three Guyatt/Pratley births in Croydon, in the early 1920s.

Eva F Guyatt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Eva F Guyatt
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: abt 1892
Registration Date: Oct 1961
[Nov 1961]
[Dec 1961]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 117




Albert E Guyatt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Albert E Guyatt
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1892
Registration Date: Oct 1960
[Nov 1960]
[Dec 1960]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 80



Eva F Guycett
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Eva F Guycett
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1892
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 8 Exeter Road
Residence Place: Croydon , Surrey , England
Occupation: Domestic Unpaid
Schedule Number: 154
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: CLJE
Registration district: 39-2
Inferred Spouse: Albert E Guycett
Household Members:
Name
Albert E Guycett - 16 June 1892
Eva F Guycett
(and 2 closed records)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Feb 2020 10:50

Albert Edgar is William Elsom's nephew.

Albert's father Ernest James is William's younger brother - see 1871 and 1881 censuses above.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 10:53

Name: Mark Elsom Guyatt
Birth Date: 15 May 1904
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Place: Queensland, Australia
Father: Mark Guyatt
Mother: Mary Elias Gibson
Page Number: 10265
Registration Number: 007682


Name: Mark Elson Guyatt
Spouse Name: Olive Emily Hargrave
Marriage Date: 03 Dec 1929
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1929
Registration Number: B007425
Page Number: 1592

Name: Mark Elsom Guyatt
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1930
Electoral Place: Roma, Maranoa, Queensland, Australia


Name: Mark Elsom Guyatt
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1963
Electoral Place: Roma, Maranoa, Queensland, Australia


Name: Mark Elsom Guyatt..........farmer
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1980
Electoral Place: Roma, Maranoa, Queensland, Australia
Also at the address - Glenolive, Gunnewin - Olive Emily Guyatt

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 10:55

Name: Mark Frederick Guyatt
Birth Date: 1865
Death Date: 1950
Cemetery: Roma General Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Roma, Maranoa Region, Queensland, Australia

Name: Mark Guyatt
Spouse Name: Macy Eliza Gibson
Marriage Date: 01 Jun 1898
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Number: 001442
Page Number: 10265

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 11:18

Name: Mr W E Guyatt
Arrival Age: 62
Birth Date: abt 1862
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 22 May 1924
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Port Said; Hobart; Colombo; Naples; Toulon; Gibraltar; Melbourne; Sydney; Adelaide; Fremantle; Plymouth, Devon, England
Ship Name: Orsova
Shipping Line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd

Travelling alone - going to West Croydon

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 11:25

Another brother, possibly, based on 1871 census


Name: Mr Frank Guyatt...........................................Miner
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Age: 44
Arrival Date: 27 Nov 1911
Arrival Port: Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Fremantle
Ship: Mongolia
Nationality: English


Ronald

Ronald Report 28 Feb 2020 12:51

I've said this before, but it never ceases to amaze me how people on this site are willing to spend their own time helping others. Erika and ArgyllGran, thank you both very much. I had nothing on Elsom Guyatt before today, but your information has clarified how he fits in to the British Guyatts. I already had most of the census details you provided, but thank you for taking the trouble to post them.
I can now add Elsom Guyatt into my existing tree. If there is anything else that you might find about the Australian Guyatts I'd be grateful to receive it.
Have a good weekend both of you and take care,
Ron

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Feb 2020 13:07

Another brother?

Mark Guyatt
in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Mark Guyatt
Death Date: 01 Jun 1950
Death Place: Queensland
Father's name: William
Mother's name: Annie Elsom
Registration Year: 1950
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 001978
Page Number: 937

Presumably he's the Mark Frederick J Guyatt in the 1871 and 1881 censuses above, and whose burial Erika has posted.

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Feb 2020 14:16

this maybe frank from 1881 census

in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
View UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939

Report issue

Name: Frank Guyatt
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1866
Birth Place: Westbourne, Sussex
First Service Date: 11 Jan 1882
First Ship Served On: St Vincent
Last Service Date: 3 Dec 1886
Last Ship Served On: Asia
Service Number: 118731



Name: Ab Francis Guyatt
Death Date: 11 Dec 1886
Cemetery: Haslar Royal Naval Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Gosport, Gosport Borough, Hampshire, England
Has Bio?: N
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...

brother Edgar

Name: Edgar C Guyatt
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 8 Nov 1873
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 15
Residence Place: Croydon, Surrey, England
Emily Guyatt
Hilda C Strand

Name: Edgar Charles Guyatt
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Birth Date: 1874
Marriage Date: 2 Apr 1904
Marriage Place: Surrey, England
Father: William Guyatt
Spouse: Emily Aldridge
FHL Film Number: 2232745
Reference ID: item 3 p 56
Occupation: Slater & ??
Schedule Number: 182
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: CLJI
Registration district: 39-2
Inferred Spouse: Emily Guyatt
Household Members:
Name
Edgar C Guyatt
Emily Guyatt
Hilda C Strand

Edgar Charles Guyatt
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Westbourne, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Croydon
Search Photos: Search for 'Croydon' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 15 Milton Avenue, Croydon
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Tiler
Registration district: Croydon
Registration District Number: 39
Sub-registration district: South Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 3297
Household Members:
Name Age
Edgar Charles Guyatt 37
Emily Guyatt 35
Hilda Clare Guyatt 3/12

three children born and living

Name: Gladys Anne Guyatt
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 25 Feb 1908
Baptism Place: Croydon, District of St James, Surrey, England
Father: Edgar Charles Guyatt
Mother: Emily Guyatt
FHL Film Number: 1835912
Reference ID: pg 53 #422

Hilda Clare Guyatt
Baptism Age: 0
Birth Date: 24 Dec 1910
Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1911
Baptism Place: Croydon Common, St James, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Croydon, St James
Search Photos: Search for 'Croydon Common, St James' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Edgar Charles Guyatt
Mother: Emily Guyatt

another child

OLIVE E
Last name GUYATT
Birth year 1912
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Aldridge
District Croydon
County Surrey
Country England

OLIVE E
Last name GUYATT
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1938
Registration month -
OLIVE E GUYATT married one of these people

Roland P Blennerhassett
Spouse's last name Blennerhassett
District Croydon

1939

23 Blenheim Park Flat, Croydon C.B., Surrey, England
Rowland Blennerhassett 19 May 1912 Male Shop Assistant General Dealer Married 344 1
Olive Blennerhassett 25 Mar 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 344 2

two children born 1941 and1946 croydon

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Feb 2020 14:49

Name: Elizabeth Harriett Guyatt
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1872
Marriage Date: 5 Sep 1903
Marriage Place: Croydon, St Michael, Surrey, England
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Father: William Guyatt
Spouse: Arthur William Bevan

Name: Elizabeth Harriett Bevan
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Croydon
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 183

daughter

Name: Audrey Seline Bevan --- image says eveline
Baptism Age: 0
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1904
Baptism Date: 22 Oct 1904
Baptism Place: Croydon, St Michael, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Croydon, St Michael and All Angels
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Father: Arthur William Bevan
Mother: Elizabeth Harriett Bevan

Name: Audrey Eveline Bevan
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1905
Burial or Cremation Date: 25 Mar 1905
Burial or Cremation Place: Sutton, London, England

Name: Audrey Eveline Bevan
Estimated birth year: abt 1905
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Croydon

sister

Name: Ellen R Guyatt
Death Age: 92
Birth Date: abt 1869
Registration Date: Apr 1961
[May 1961]
[Jun 1961]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Croydon

Name: Ellen Rebecca Guyatt
Registration Year: 1869
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Westbourne
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Sussex

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2020 16:21

Might be worth trying the following, Ronald

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?surname=guyatt&record_country=Australia&count=20