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John Fenton born 1891

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Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 15:33

Hi
Can anyone find the above man on the 1911 census. He was born in Bispham on the fylde (Blackpool) in 1891.
Just trying to figure out how he came to meet his wife Dora Adams born in 1895 in I think Sussex. I am unable to find her on the 1911 census with her parents Frederick George Adams and St p mother Catherine Emma Adams nee Mitchell. They were living in Sussex and as she was still only approx 15had assumed she would be living with them. Can anyone find her on the 1911censuz. Actually she may have been born in chelsea as was her younger sister. She was also known as molly.
Thanks
Shirley :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:37

Marriages Dec 1923 (>99%)
Adams Dora V Fenton Fylde 8e 1276
Fenton John Adams Fylde 8e 1276


Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
Adams Dora Violet Chelsea 1a 344

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:39

Name: Dora Violet Adams
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Chelsea, Middlesex
Civil Parish: Keymer
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: Leicester House Oakwood Rd Burgess Hill
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Helps
Registration district: Cuckfield
Registration District Number: 76
Sub-registration district: Hurstpierpoint
ED, institution, or vessel: 03
Piece: 5022
Household Members:
Name Age
David J Smith 59
Louisa H Smith 46
Ivy Austine Holder 18
Dora Violet Adams 15

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 15:41

Yes that's correct. Wondered how that came to be. She was born in Chelsea. Don't think her family lived in the North of England though her half brother Edward was born in Nelson Lancashire which I guess isn't that far from Blackpool.. And Dora violet Adams is not with her family on the 1911census. Think they are in Sussex still.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:42

Name: Dora Violet Fenton
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Birth Place: London, England
Age: 28
Date of Arrival: 10 Mar 1924
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Ship Name: Saxonia

Name: Dora Violet Fenton
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1896
Death Age: 79
Death Date: 9 Oct 1975
Death Location: Vancouver
Registration Number: 1975-09-015468

Baptism

Name: Dora Violet Adams
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 28 Aug 1895
Baptism Date: 13 Oct 1895
Baptism Place: Saint Simon Zelotes, Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick George Adams
Mother: Kate Adams

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 15:44

Ah thanks for that erika. Wondered if she had found work.
I'm trying to discover how she came to marry John Fenton in Blackpool.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:45

Name: John Fenton
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bispham, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bispham with Norbreck
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Bispham Court Farm, Little Bispham, Nr Blackpool
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Farmer's Son Working On Farm
Registration district: Fylde
Registration District Number: 477
Sub-registration district: Blackpool
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 25403
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Ann Fenton 58
Alice Fenton 32
Margaret Fenton 26
Edward Fenton 23
John Fenton 19

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:46

Some questions simply can't be answered

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 15:49

Kate obrien was her mum. Catherine Emma was Frederick Adams second wife. Yes they moved to Canada as did her other sister kitty also known as Kathleen. Kathleen was born in 1897. Both Jack Fenton and Dora died in Canada.
Have you been able to find John Fenton on the 1911census. I appreciate I've not given details of parents. There are also a few options in that area of fylde for a John Fenton. Will check to make sure I have not got John Fenton father name

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:49

Baptism: 25 Oct 1891 All Hallows, Bispham, Lancashire, England
John Fenton - [Child] of James Fenton & Martha Ann
Abode: Bispham Court
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: Geo. Leighton, M. A.
Register: Baptisms 1852 - 1936, Page 78, Entry 619
Source: LDS Film 1526145

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
Fenton James Chorlton 8c 928
HARROP Martha Ann Chorlton 8c 928

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 15:52

Yes you are right. Thanks for finding John Fenton for me. Appreciate it. Ah, I did wonder if he'd been a farmer.
I'm later photos in Canada he looked like he was farming.
Thanks again
Shirley

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 16:06

We are also trying to find what happened to Catherine Emma adams nee Mitchell. Frederick George Adams had at least three more children with Catherine Emma known as Emma before he died in 1933. She already had Edward from her first marriage to James Wilkinson,. Edward was born in Nelson. On the 1911census he was living with Frederick George and his mum Catherine Emma and was named as Edward Adams. He was actually Edward Wilkinson.
Then they had Frances (fanny) and Phyllis and George..
After this we do not know what happened to Catherine Emma Adams.
Is there any chance of finding her out there. She seems to like to change her name to be called Emma.
Thanks :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 16:19

Name: Frederick George Adams
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Cuckfield
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 373
Frederick George Adams
Katherine Emma Wilkinson

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 16:24

Marriages Mar 1895 (>99%)
Mitchell Emma Skipton 9a 59
Wilkinson James Skipton 9a 59

For info about Catherine's birth year - vital

Name: Catherine Adams
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Worcestershire


Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 16:30

All we know is her dad was named William. That's all we know I think. And born in Worcester. In 1877. :-)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Mar 2020 16:35

Dora Violet Fenton

in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
View Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924

Name: Dora Violet Fenton
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Birth Place: London, England
Age: 28
Date of Arrival: 10 Mar 1924
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Ship Name: Saxonia

Destined to sister Mrs. F.C. Sharp, Vancouver British Columbia.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 17:04

Have you done anything about looking for her?

Did she register Frederick's death?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 17:14

Easily found on freebmd - probable death

Deaths Sep 1937 (>99%)
Adams Katherine E 61 Uxbridge 3a 76

BUT - you need the cert for 100% proof

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 17:45

Name: Freda Agness Adams
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1901
Baptism Place: Chelsea St Saviour, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick Adams
Mother: Kathleen Adams
Register Type: Parish Registers

1939

Name: Freda A Gray
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 14 Aug 1901
Residence Year: 1939
Address: High St.lane End
Residence Place: Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 88
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: DWPS
Registration district: 145/1
Inferred Spouse: William J Gray
Household Members:
Name
William J Gray
Freda A Gray
This record is officially closed.
John F Gray
Joan E Matthews

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 17:55

ADAMS, GEORGE HENRY MITCHELL
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in LEWES Volume 02B Page 145