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Morning
Ive come back to my family tree in the last few weeks and
I'm rather stuck with some of my Scottish family, please can anyone help?
James Alexander Menzies 1875-11.12.1963., think his wife was Christina Bertram Gardner. His youngest son was Norman Hugh died 1997, cant find any more children or any more about Norman.
Elizabeth Rae Menzies 1887 sister of James. Cant find anything out about her either.
Thank you

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MMN was apparently BERTRAM

MENZIES
NORMAN HUGH
81
BERTRAM
1997
473/ 76
Stirling

MENZIES
NORMAN HUGH
M
1916
490/ 14
Stirling

Marriage

MENZIES
JAMES ALEXANDER
BERTRAM
CHRISTINA
1909
333/ 7
Blackford


Info found on SP website

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

Two siblings for Norman

MENZIES
JAMES ALEXANDER
63
BERTRAM
1974
473/ 247
Stirling


MENZIES
WILLIAM BERTRAM
102
BERTRAM
2016
393/ 65
Callander

Found by searching for deaths for surname and MMN

MENZIES
CHRISTINA
72
1956
490/ 486
Stirling

Possible for the sister?

MENZIES
ELIZABETH RAE
84
1970
573/1 249
Paisley

Birth?

MENZIES
ELIZABETH RAE
F
1885
478/ 27
Dunipace

First name(s) James Alexander
Last name Menzies
Age 18
Birth year 1875
Birth country Spain
Service number APC/580
Regiment Army Pay Corps
Year 1893
Series WO 364
Series description Wo 364 - First World War Pension Claims

First name(s) James Alexander
Last name Menzies
Birth year 1875
Birth date -
Service number 580
Rank Warrant Officer Class 2
Year 1914-18
Death year -
Death date -
Corps Army Pay Corps
Service British Army
Stories -
Links
James Alexander: Medal Index Card
James Alexander: Silverbadge record
Source
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User facts
First names : James Alexander
Place of Birth : Spain Seville

First name(s) James Alexander
Last name Menzies
Birth year 1875
Death year 1963
Death Date 11 Dec 1963
Burial year 1963
Age 88
Burial date 13 Dec 1963
Place Logie
Cemetery Logie Cemetery
County Stirlingshire

1901

George Gardner Head Married Male 32 1869 Flesher Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Martha Gardner Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
George Gardner Son - Male 6 1895 Scholar Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Catherine Gardner Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Mary Whittet Servant - Female 14 1887 - Stirlingshire, Scotland
Barbara F Whitelaw Head Widow Female 65 1836 Living On Own Means Lanarkshire, Scotland
Hugh Cameron Servant Single Male 41 1860 Butler Domestic St Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Sydney Sandy Servant Single Male 26 1875 Footman Domestic England
Elizabeth Style Servant Single Female 51 1850 Housekeeper Domestic England
Jane Dawson Servant Single Female 23 1878 Kitchen Maid Domestic Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland
Christina Bertram Servant Single Female 16 1885 Sculley Maid Domestic Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Jane Edgar Servant Single Female 30 1871 Nurse Domestic -
Annie Gibb Servant Single Female 18 1883 Under Nurse Domestic England
Violet J Thompson Granddaughter Single Female 10 1891 Scholar England
Rose May Thompson Granddaughter Single Female 8 1893 Scholar England
Thomas J Thompson Grandson Single Male 5 1896 Scholar England
Jessie Henderson Servant Single Female 25 1876 Under Housemaid Domestic Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Lizzie Aitken Servant Single Female 41 1860 Housemaid Domestic Killearn, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Elizabeth ? Servant Single Female 46 1855 Laundry Maid Domestic Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland

Thank for your help ErikaH. Ive spent ages on this bit of the family, there were 8 children, and had got stuck.
Stay safe
Nicky

The James born in Spain isn't mine. My James was associated with the motor and cycle trade in Stirling and built Stirlings first cinema with his brother Archie.
That's him in Logie churchyard .I saw pics of his grave, that's how I knew about Norman
Thank you for all your help

Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920

First name(s) J. A.
Last name Menzies
Service number 580
Rank Staff Sergeant-Major
Badge number B152466
Enlistment date 29-Apr-1893
Discharge date 24-Apr-1919
Regiment/unit Army Pay Corps.
Cause of discharge Sickness 392 (xvi)
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 17-Jun-1919
Record set Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
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Surname Forename Year Gender Age at Census Ref RD Name County/ City Image View
MENZIES
JAMES A
1911
M
36
490/ 6/ 2
Stirling
Stirling

With Christina aged 26
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MENZIES
JAMES ALEXANDER
M
1875
312/ 58
Montrose

As you didn't give location, took a while to pinpoint...................

1891
James Menzies Head Married Male 47 1844 Gardener Dom Serv Monzie, Perthshire, Scotland
Jane Menzies Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
William Menzies Son Unmarried Male 20 1871 House Joiner Garvald, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
James A Menzies Son Unmarried Male 16 1875 Apprentice Gardener Montrose, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Archibald E Menzies Son - Male 14 1877 Scholar Cameron, Fife, Scotland
Jane G Menzies Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Cameron, Fife, Scotland
Susan K Menzies Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Dunipace, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Elizabeth R Menzies Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Dunipace, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Robert A Menzies Son - Male 0 1891 - Dunipace, Stirlingshire, Scotland

1881

James Menzies Head Married Male 38 1843 Gardner Perthshire, Scotland
Jane Menzies Wife Married Female 29 1852 - Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Hugh Menzies Son - Male 11 1870 Scholar Garvald, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
William Menzies Son - Male 10 1871 Scholar Garvald, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
James Menzies Son - Male 6 1875 Scholar Montrose, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Archibald Menzies Son - Male 4 1877 Scholar Cameron, Fife, Scotland
Jane G Menzies Daughter - Female 1 1880 - Cameron, Fife, Scotland

MENZIES
SUSAN KEMP
F
1883
478/ 29
Dunipace

MENZIES
SUSAN KEMP
83
1966
490/ 279
Stirling

Many thanks for your help everyone. What you have found will keep me quiet for a while

MENZIES
JANE GIBSON
F
1879
412/ 15
Cameron

MENZIES
JANE GIBSON
77
1956
490/ 354
Stirling


MENZIES
ARCHIBALD EARSM
M
1876
412/ 31
Cameron

Parents' marriage

EARSMAN
JANE
MENZIES
JAMES
1869
479/1 22
Falkirk Burgh

Christina's birth?
BERTRAM
CHRISTINA
F
1884
286/ 7
Farnell
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