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Samuel Ferns
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
Name:
Samuel Ferns
Event Type:
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter:
Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year:
1885
Registration District:
Ashton Under Lyne
County:
Lancashire
Event Place:
Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Volume:
8D
Page:
515
Affiliate Line Number:
150

and the mother's maiden name is Shepley, if you look at the GRO Index

FERNS, SAMUEL mmn SHEPLEY
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in ASHTON UNDER LYNE Volume 08D Page 515

Thank you Malyron,

the only problem i see there is the surname is Fern not Ferns !!!

to be honest i'm more interested in Pamelia Ferns nee Shepley who i believe was John Ferns first wife, but all help is greatly appreciated

Ron

not finding her death or remarriage could she have immagrated

could this be pamelia using her maiden name father samuel

Pamelia Shepley
Massachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915
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Name:
William Rose
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
28 Nov 1892
Event Place:
New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States
Gender:
Male
Age:
38
Marital Status:
Single
Birth Year (Estimated):
1854
Birthplace:
England, United Kingdom
Father's Name:
William
Mother's Name:
Mary Wright
Spouse's Name:
Pamelia Shepley
Spouse's Gender:
Female
Spouse's Age:
32
Spouse's Marital Status:
Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
1860
Spouse's Father's Name:
Samuel
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Mary
Record Number:
135

the sons marriage

Pamelia Shepley
mentioned in the record of Samuel Fern
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Name: Pamelia Shepley
Sex: Female
Husband: John
Son: Samuel Fern
Other information in the record of Samuel Fern
from Massachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915
Name:
Samuel Fern
Name Note:
Mill Operative
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
11 Oct 1902
Event Place:
New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States
Event Place (Original):
New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States
Gender:
Male
Age:
23
Birth Year (Estimated):
1879
Birthplace:
England, United Kingdom
Father's Name:
John
Mother's Name:
Pamelia Shepley
Spouse's Name:
Sarah D.h. Douglas
Spouse's Gender:
Female
Spouse's Age:
23
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
1879
Spouse's Father's Name:
Alexander
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Sarah Ezlintrol
Record Number:
134

or this might be pamelia's death father samuel mother hannah

Pamela Shepley Rose
Massachusetts Deaths, 1841-1915
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Name:
Pamela Shepley Rose
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Event Type:
Death
Event Date:
08 Oct 1900
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Event Place:
New Bedford, Massachusetts
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Gender:
Female
Age:
40
Age:
40y 27d
Age:
40 years 27 days
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Housewife
Birth Year (Estimated):
1860
Birthplace:
England
Burial Place:
New Bedford
Father's Name:
Samuel Shepley
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Father's Birthplace:
England
Mother's Name:
Hannah Lindley
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Mother's Birthplace:
England
Spouse's Name:
William
Source Reference:
Shepley Rose, Pamela, 1900
Digital Folder Number:
004289811
Record Number:
360
Record Number:
360

Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960


First name(s) Pemala
Last name Shepley
Gender Female
Age 31
Birth year 1861
Marital status S
Occupation SPIN
Departure year 1892
Departure day 28
Departure month 7
Departure port Liverpool
Destination port Boston
Destination BOSTON
State Massachusetts
Ship name Catalonia
Ship master's last name ATKIN
Ship master's title CAPT
Ship destination port BOSTON
Ship destination country USA


Travelling with 7 year old Samuel Shepley.

She had another child:

Name: Pamela Rose
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1900
Event Place: Easton city Ward 8, Northampton, Pennsylvania, United States
Event Place (Original): ED 133 Easton city Ward 8, Northampton, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 40
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Number of Living Children: 2
Birth Date: Sep 1860
Birthplace: England
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1883
Immigration Year: 1891
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother of how many children: 2
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Wife
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 6
Digital Folder Number: 004115151
Record Number: 44857


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Rose Head M 45 England
Pamela Rose Wife F 40 England
Samuel Rose Son M 16 England
Pamela A Rose Daughter F 1 Pennsylvania

District: 133
Sheet Number and Letter: 6A
Household ID: 129
Line Number: 19
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T623
GS Film Number: 1241447
Digital Folder Number: 004115151
Image Number: 00918
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: N00710-3

Rose

William was from England too and has the same year of immigration.

Rose

William Rose remarried. Did Pamelia perhaps die in childbirth if young Pamela is her daughter?


Us Census 1900

South Eleventh St, Easton Northampton Pennsylvania

William Rose Head Married Male foreman hosiery 45 born May 1855 England
Pamela Rose Wife Married Female 40 born Sept 1860 England
Samuel Rose Son Single Male 16 born March 1884 spreader hosiery England
Pamela A Rose Daughter Single Female 5 months born Dec 1899 Pennsylvania


Us Census 1910

New Bedford Ward 6, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year
William Rose Self Married Male 55 1855
Jane Rose Wife Married Female 44 1866
Pamela E Rose Daughter Single Female 10 1900
William A Rose Son Single Male 7 1903


Oh snap Rose :-)



Us Census 1920

Part of Precinct 22 New Bedford City 6 Bristol Massachusetts


William Rose Self Married Male 63 1857 England
Jane Rose Wife Married Female 55 1865 England
Pamela E Rose Daughter Single Female 20 1900 Pennsylvania
William E Rose Son Single Male 17 1903 Massachusetts

Pamela's death:

Name: Pamela Shepley Rose
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 08 Oct 1900
Event Place: New Bedford, Massachusetts
Gender: Female
Age: 40
Age: 40y 27d
Age: 40 years 27 days
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Housewife
Birth Year (Estimated): 1860
Birthplace: England
Burial Place: New Bedford
Father's Name: Samuel Shepley
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Hannah Lindley
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's Name: William
Source Reference: Shepley Rose, Pamela, 1900
Digital Folder Number: 004289811
Record Number: 360
Record Number: 360

Reference ID: v 504 p 365
GS Film Number: 1843726
Digital Folder Number: 4289811
Image Number: 389
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B07448-5


Rose

Pamela Ester Rose
Massachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915
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Name:
Irving Raymond Teachman
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
26 Jun 1922
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Event Place:
New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States
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Event Place (Original):
New Bedford
Gender:
Male
Age:
22
Birth Year (Estimated):
1900
Father's Name:
Herbert F Teachman
Mother's Name:
Melissa Ann Tripp
Spouse's Name:
Pamela Ester Rose
Spouse's Gender:
Female
Spouse's Age:
22
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
1900
Spouse's Father's Name:
William Rose
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Pamela Shepley

Irving was widowed by 1930. Shame both Pamelas didn't have long marriages.

Us Census 1930

New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Herbert F Teachman Head Married Male 62 1868 Massachusetts
Melissa Teachman Wife Married Female 60 1870 Massachusetts
Irving R Teachman Son Widowed automechanic Male 30 1900 Massachusetts
William J Teachman Grandson Single Male 6 1924 Massachusetts
Raymond H Teachman Grandson Single Male 1 1929 Massachusetts

Ron

One point arising from your post ............


"1066ronnie Report 5 May 2020 10:25

Thank you Malyron,

the only problem i see there is the surname is Fern not Ferns !!!

to be honest i'm more interested in Pamelia Ferns nee Shepley who i believe was John Ferns first wife, but all help is greatly appreciated

Ron"


Mistranslations often happened, especially back in the day when everything was handwritten.

If you get the certificate, can find a parish record online, or look at the original transcript of the Register on Freebmd, you will almost certainly find that it was originally written Ferris. Think of copper-plate handwriting in the original certificate, Parish Register, or the Local Register, then finally transcribed by GRO, and you will see that Ferris can very easily be misread as Ferns or Ferms.

One of the names that I research is Cadd ............. I have to also look for Ladd, Sadd, Dadd!

When you search for Ferris, may I suggest that you use the wild card * which can stand in for 1 or more letters .................. Fer*s

That is what I, malyon and other researchers are doing/

Thank you for all the help "Peeps"

I was more interested in Pamelia Ferns nee Shepley as she is a direct cousin, interesting that John Ferns may have re-married

Ah well keep on searching
Brgds
Ron

Thanks Malyron

Silly me didn't realise there was page 2 on replies, interesting Pamela in USA so it look like sh emigrated espesciallmas you mentioned her Mother and Father which are correct I will look through page 2 of all replies that could be the reason I couldn't find her at later census?

Thank you all once again, I am amazed how all this info is found, I must be looking in wrong places!!!!

Thanks Sylviain

All your comments noted much appreciated :-D

i always look in family search its free

Thanks malyon

I'm with Ancestry, Genes, Find my Past I also use IGI but obviously not looking in right places :-D :-D

I must say all of the helpers are brilliant and I cannot thank you all enough

Rgds

Ron