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Hi All,
Can you help please?
I have a Thomas Finch born 1807 Bap 11 Jan 1807 Chatham Kent to parents, Gabriel Best Finch & Mary Teay
When I look on the site that begins with a capitol "A" I can find a Thomas that emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1871 shown as age 64 born 1807 but the site has no further details like the passenger list. There is nothing more to click on:
Also can not find any thing about Mary Teay apart from her marriage on 22 Feb 1802 at St Mary Magdalene Church Gillingham Kent: Got the marriage from City Ark site:
Any help will be most welcome:
Mumbles:

Have you done any research with regard to census info in the UK?

I presume your strange reference to the website means ANCESTRY?

There are numerous baptisms for the name in 1807 - have you any reason for thinking the migration is 'your' Thomas?


There is a death record for one born in England - strangely, it's listed as the 1871 census

He died in April 1871 of Bilious Fever.

He was married - and a Miller by trade

Name: Thomas Finch
Age: 64
Birth Year: abt 1807
Arrival year: 1871
Arrival Place: Ontario, Canada
Primary Immigrant: Finch, Thomas
Source Publication Code: 1823.8

I have only been able to find him in the 1841 census: and yes it was Ancestry:

On Ancestry if you go to search all records it gives the baptism which gives the parents as Gabriel and Mary so I know that is correct and click on it and it gives other items to check one of which is migration It also gives a couple of deaths one in Dartford and one in Erith, so it is really a matter of trying to find which is correct: I thought that the migration might be correct as in 1851 some of his half siblings went to USA:

???

Name: Thomas Finch........................Carpenter
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil Parish: Upper Hardres
Hundred: Bridge and Petham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Bridge
Sub-registration district: Chartham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 467
Book: 5
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Whitnall 65
Mary Whitnall 70
William Whitnall 45
Jane Whitnall 60
Thomas Finch 35

First name(s) Gabriel
Last name Finch
Birth year 1771
Burial year 1855
Age at death 84
Burial date 06 May 1855
Place Halstead, St Margaret
Residence Halstead
Country England
Archive Kent History & Library Centre
Archive reference P166/1/E/1
Register type Burials
Year range 1813-1929

Yes I have the death of Gabriel Finch ErikaH that is Thomas father Thank you for that:
I have all the details on his father, I am having trouble with the Mother and Thomas his self

I know you are looking for info on Thomas and his Mother, Mary but have you got the actual date of Gabriel's death ie 1 May 1855 aged 84? ....this is form his Army Pension Record.

?? If the 1841 census posted by ErikaH is the one you think is correct, Mumbles, this looks like him in 1861:

Thomas Finch
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Thomas Finch
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: 1804
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Upper Hardres, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Upper Hardres
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Bridge
Sub-registration district: Chartham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 517
Folio: 71
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Fenwick 59
William Fenwick 39
John Hawkes 21
George Southon 16
Henry Deal 24
William Culvery 40
Thomas Finch 57 - carpenter, single


But Chartham (near Canterbury) is not Chatham. And Gillingham isn't near Chartham, though only a couple of miles from Chatham.

Slightly different age again, but a possible death of the man in 1841 and 1861 censuses:

Deaths Mar 1871 (>99%)
Finch Thomas 69 Bridge 2a 451

Upper Hardres was in Bridge reg district

Thomas Finch
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name:
Thomas Finch
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1841
Event Place:
Deptford St Paul, Kent, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
St Paul Deptford, Kent, England
County:
Kent
Parish:
St Paul Deptford
Registration District:
Greenwich
Residence Note:
New King Street
Gender:
Male
Age:
30
Age (Original):
30
Birth Year (Estimated):
1807-1811
Birthplace:
Kent
Page Number:
24
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
488/16
Affiliate Record Type:
Institution
Affiliate Image Identifier:
GBC/1841/0488/0465&parentid=GBC/1841/0014231164
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Mathew* Finch Male 70 Kent
Mathew Sanders Finch Male 35 Kent
Thomas Finch Male 30 Kent
Ann Rolt Female 60 Kent
Mary Ann Lepard Female 38 Kent
Eliza Coltar Female 21 Kent
Elizebth Stapleton Female 25 Kent

Yes LondonBelle I do have his Army pension records: I am OK with the Father Gabriel: Thank you
Maybe the 1861 census is the same person : It does say birth about 1804, but he is a Carpenter:

Please can you clarify, Mumbles?

How did you work back to Thomas?

Is the 1841 census posted by ErikaH the one you think is correct?

If so, how do you know that he's the same Thomas as the one born in Chatham (about 30miles away) ?

If the man in 1861 is the one in1841, then he was born in Upper Hardres, not Chatham.

Possible burial for Mary?

First name(s) Mary
Last name Finch
Birth year 1781
Burial year 1813
Age at death 32
Burial date 04 Oct 1813
Place Gillingham, St Mary Magdalene
Residence Brompton
County Kent
Country England
Archive Medway Archives

Here's the Upper Hardres man in 1851:

Thomas Finch
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Finch
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Upper Hardres, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Upper Hardres
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Bridge
Sub-registration district: Chartham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 2
Piece: 1623
Folio: 82
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Whitnall 49
Thomas Finch 50 - carpenter

This looks like the Gabriel who died in 1855 (death posted by ErikaH) :

Gabriel Fench
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Gabriel Fench
[Gabrial Finch]
[Gabriel Finch]
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: abt 1771
[1770]
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
[SUNDRIDGE, near Sevenoaks, Kent, England]
Civil Parish: Halstead <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hundred: Codsheath
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Shoreham
Neighbors:
Piece: 483
Book: 4
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Gabriel Fench 70
Susannah Fench 50
George Fench 15
John Fench 15
Frederick Fench 13
Mary Fench 10


An Ancestry member has added this comment:

Almost certainly the Gabriel Finch who left the Royal Artillery at WOOLWICH 30 Sep 1814 aged 44 after 20 years service (National Archives, 2 documents). Wife Mary mother of 3 children bap WOOLWICH 1802/5 dead by then as he m. Susanna Follings at Lee, Kent 16 Jul 1815 (IGI) and began 2nd family.

Could Mary's surname be 'Tye' rather than 'Teay'?

First name(s) Mary
Last name Tye
Baptism year 1783
Baptism date 08 Jun 1783
Place Chatham, St Mary
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Susanna
County Kent
Country England
Archive Medway Archives

If that's the right Gabriel in 1841 above, these will be the baptisms of three of the four children mentioned by the Ancestry member.

I don't see a fourth in Woolwich, so MAYBE Thomas is the fourth ???
Chatham's quite a distance from Woolwich, but both are dockyard areas:

Catharine Finch
in the London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Name: Catharine Finch
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Jan 1804
Baptism Place: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, Greenwich, Kent, England
Father: Gabriel Finch
Mother: Mary Finch
Register Type: Parish Register


William Finch
in the London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Name: William Finch
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Jun 1805
Baptism Place: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, Greenwich, Kent, England
Father: Gabriel Finch
Mother: Mary Finch
Register Type: Parish Register

Mary Finch
in the London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Name: Mary Finch
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Dec 1802
Baptism Place: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, Greenwich, Kent, England
Father: Gabriel Finch
Mother: Mary Finch
Register Type: Parish Register

Are Gabriel and Susannah's children listed in 1841 the half-siblings you mentioned as having gone to the USA?

If not, who are the half-siblings? Perhaps we can work back to Thomas that way.