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Looking for 1851 census please

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Rose

Rose Report 8 Oct 2020 15:17

Thank you Maddie, Ive just found those details but its nice to have confirmation. Edward is using his step fathers surname, not his birth name.

1871 census 6 Williams Buildings, Tower Hamlets,Mile End Old Town.
Edward Loder age 25 general labourer born Ratcliffe
Mary Ann Loder age 23
I am unsure if this is him?? What do you think? " "

Maddie

Maddie Report 8 Oct 2020 13:48

411, Cambridge Road, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England
1881
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Loader Head Widower Male 35 1846 Deal Porter Ratcliff, Middlesex, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 8 Oct 2020 13:21

Edward George
Last name Jeeves
Birth year 1846
Birth date 08/08/1846
Baptism year 1846
Baptism date 04 Sep 1846
Address Workhouse Wapping
Father's first name(s) -
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Parish St John, Wapping
Church address Green Bank


1891
Name: Edward Loader
Gender: Male
Age: 44
Relationship: Boarder
Birth Year: 1847
Birth Place: St George in the East, London, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simons Zelotes
Residence Place: London, Bethnal Green, London, England
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green East
ED, Institution or Vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Piece: 271
Folio: 137
Household Members:
Name Age
George H Bell 23
Francis E E Bell 27
Edward Loader 44 -- widower

County Middlesex

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Oct 2020 13:08

I posted his birth - and you've been given 1851/1861 censuses

Try looking on freebmd

Rose

Rose Report 8 Oct 2020 13:01

ErikaH Must be another Martha as on the 1861 census she is living with Ann Loader and the rest of the family.

Can someone please help me find any details on Edward George Jeeves/Loader
born Wapping 1846 mother Ann Jeeves

Thank you
Rose

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2020 17:05

Name: William Loader
Estimated Age: 53
Birth Date: 1798
Birth Place: Weymouth, Dorset
Issue Date: 14 Apr 1851
Issue Port: London
Certificate Number: 306

1851
Name: William Loader
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Weymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Limehouse
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Stepney
Sub-registration District: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 61
Piece: 1554
Folio: 597
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Bradley 58
Ann Bradley 51
Emma Bradley 23
Sarah Bradley 21
Philip Bradley 17
William Loader 57
Rosina Konsmouth 19

1861
Name: William Loader
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: 1797
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Weymouth, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Limehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration District: Stepney
Sub-registration District: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 29
Piece: 288
Folio: 102
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Bradley 68
Ann M Bradley 64
Emma Bradley 25
William Loader 64
Anne Seymour 25
Ellen Smith 20

Name: William Loader
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Jun 1797
Baptism Place: Weymouth St Paul, Dorset, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
View this parish
Father: John Loader
Mother: Elizth Loader

Name: William Loader
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Registration Year: 1867
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 69
Registration District: Stepney
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 379

Name: Wm Loader
Age: 70
Birth Date: abt 1797
Burial Date: 7 Feb 1867
Burial Place: London, England
Reference Number: CTHC/01/048
limehouse

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2020 16:56

he had a brother
Richard
Last name Loader
Birth year -
Baptism year 1821
Baptism date 14 Dec 1821
Baptism place Melcombe Regis
Church St Mary
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Notes Mariner
County Dorset
Country England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Oct 2020 16:23

???

Robt Loader
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Robt Loader
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Melcombe Regis
Hundred: Weymouth and Melcombe Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration District: Weymouth
Sub-registration District: Weymouth
Neighbors:
Piece: 295
Book: 16
Folio: 43
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Tudge 50
Martha Tudge 50
Elizth Tudge 21
Cecelia Tudge 15
Weyland Tudge 13
Fanny Tudge 9
James Henidge 15
Robt Loader 15


EDIT:

No, that might be this one:

Robert Loader
in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Name: Robert Loader
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Dec 1825
Christening Place: Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
View this parish
Father: Robert Loader
Mother: Mary Loader

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2020 16:12

this one
Robert
Last name Loader
Birth year -
Baptism year 1821
Baptism date 14 Dec 1821
Baptism place Melcombe Regis
Church St Mary
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Notes Mariner
County Dorset
Country England
Record set Dorset Baptisms

Rose

Rose Report 7 Oct 2020 16:09

Maddie a perfect fit BUT I am confused

Why is Ann visiting a married Robert Louder born in Dorset, parents Robert and Mary Loader when according to Ann and Roberts marriage certificate states he is a bachelor and his father as William Loader, shipwright. The premises being Manor Court, Stepney.
OMG Just found another Loader family in Dorset, William and Mary Loader son Robert born 14/12/1821, father is a Mariner.

Richard kept his name, he married Hannah Kinley in Dec 1863, Stepney My gg grandfather was one of the witnesses . They had one daughter Hannah who married John Wood. Probate 30/3/1900 to his daughter Hannah Wood.

What a find, thank you so much
Rose x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Oct 2020 16:01

Maybe a possibiity for Robert:

Robert Jeffres
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Robert Jeffres
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary Princes Road
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub-registration District: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 19a
Piece: 1572
Folio: 100
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Cannon 49
William Cannon 24
James Cannon 20
Elizabeth Cannon 18
Elizas Cannon 13
George Cannon 8
Robert Jeffres 21 - smith, unmarried

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2020 16:00

???
ROBERT
Last name JEEVES
Gender Male
3
Death year 1855
District Stepney
County London
Volume 1C
Page 358
Country England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Oct 2020 15:46

Possible death of Ann's father, if he was alive in 1853 but deceased by 1861 ??

JEVES, WILLIAM 87
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 01C Page 338


(But not if Ann's father was 35 in 1841.)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 15:12

You posted that before ;-) ;-) ;-)

Rose

Rose Report 7 Oct 2020 15:10

Hello ladies, Thank you so much. This is the family I am looking for. Thought there may be more siblings for Ann and luckily you have found me 2 more.

Malyon Ann was born Limehouse Middlesex.

Robert Jeves was witness at Ann's wedding to Robert Loader

The dates for William Jeeves do not fit sadly as according to when Ann married Henry in 1861 he was deceased.

Thank you so much now to see if I can find Martha and Robert

Rose x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:51

?????????????
1861
Name: Martha Jeeves
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: 1827
Gender: Female
Where born: Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Stepney St Dunstan
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 118
Piece: 293
Folio: 32
Page Number: 26
Name Age
George Wright 51
Calia A Wright 61
Fanny S Wright 18
Maria L Wright 16
Maria M Wright 60
Cath L Wright 55
Martha Jeeves 34

Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Jeeves Martha 71 Poplar 1c 405

Name: Martha Jeeves
Death Date: 27 Oct 1897
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 6 Nov 1897
Probate Registry: London, England
Address; 46, Archibald Street, Bow
Probate to Charles Oliver, Printer.
Effects £395 1s 2d

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:46

Robert was obviously alive in 1853, as per the marriage info I posted - Martha may have died pre-1841

I'm wondering if 'Richard' in 1841 was actually Robert, in view of the age. No baptism for a 'Richard'

Rose

Rose Report 7 Oct 2020 14:39

Hello ladies, Thank you so much. This is the family I am looking for. Thought there may be more siblings for Ann and luckily you have found me 2 more.

Malyon Ann was born Limehouse Middlesex.

Robert Jeves was witness at Ann's wedding to Robert Loader

The dates for William Jeeves do not fit sadly as according to when Ann married Henry in 1861 he was deceased.

Thank you so much now to see if I can find Martha and Robert

Rose x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:38

1841..............MAYBE



Name: Ann Jeffs
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Seymour Place
Registration District: St Marylebone
Sub-registration District: St Mary
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 679
Book: 7
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jeffs 35...................Cab Driver
Elizabeth Jeffs 15
Ann Jeffs 15
Richard Jeffs 8

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:33

Name: Edward-george Jeeves
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Sep 1846
Baptism Place: Wapping, Tower Hamlets, England
Mother: Ann Jeeves

JEEVES, EDWARD GEORGE -
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 541

So Edward 'Loader' was in fact Jeeves...........................father unknown