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Price Family - Radnorshire/Knighton - early 1900s

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jan 2021 10:24

Presumably the birth of the son Harry in the 1911 census:

PRICE, HENRY mmn RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 96

And the son James in the 1911 census:

PRICE, JOHN JAMES mmn RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in KNIGHTON Volume 11B Page 115


EDIT:
I think Henry in 1911 census may be Richard Henry (see later posot, and not the Henry above.

This will be the death of the Henry born 1901:

PRICE, HENRY 1
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 30

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jan 2021 10:50

Possibly William Henry's death??

Deaths Dec 1967 (>99%)
PRICE WILLIAM H 88 RADNOR E 8C 394


Lucy's death (posted earlier) was registered in Radnor East, which includes Knighton.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jan 2021 11:00

Another child:

PRICE, RICHARD HENRY mmn RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 44


Richard Henry Price
in the Radnorshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1994
Name: Richard Henry Price
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 1900
Marriage Date: 29 Dec 1924
Marriage Place: Knighton, Radnorshire, Wales <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father: William Henry Price <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< labourer
Spouse: Elizabeth Beatrice Mary Turner


I think he is "Henry" in 1911 census, rather than the Henry whose birth I posted earlier.
I've edited the earlier post to add the probable death of Henry:

PRICE, HENRY 1
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 30

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 11:11

1939
31 George Road, Knighton, Knighton U.D., Radnorshire, Wales

Richard H Price 04 Oct 1901 Male Gas Stoker Heavy Worker Married 137 1
Elizabeth B M Price 02 Jun 1902 Female Land Worker At Market Gardener Married 137 2
Emily B J Bondler (Price) 16 Apr 1925 Female At School Single 137 3
Winifred G D Neville (Price) 30 Mar 1927 Female At School Single 137 4
Stanley G Price 03 Nov 1928 Male At School Single 137 5
Cedric D Price 27 Sep 1930 Male At School Single 137 6
2 closed records

safc

safc Report 6 Jan 2021 15:00

Record Transcription:
Radnorshire Baptisms

First name(s) Doris
Last name Price
Birth year 1914
Birth date ? ? 1914
Baptism year 1914
Baptism date 06 Jul 1914
Place Knighton
County Radnorshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Henry xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mother's first name(s) Lucy Emily
Page 243
Record set Radnorshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Jan 2021 04:47


Using https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
in particular http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary
RICHARDS Richard CASTER Adelaide L L 1874 Tipton, St Mark Sandwell Register Office 38/2/292
PRICE Henry RICHARDS Lucy E 1899 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/042/141

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jan 2021 17:00

1901 census

Coneygree Road, Tipton, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Harry Price Head Married Male 22 1879 Horse Driver Wellington, Shropshire, England
Emily Price Wife Married Female 20 1881 - Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Winnie Booth Visitor Married Female 24 1877 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jan 2021 19:17

???

PRICE, HARRY mmn EVANS
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in WELLINGTON SALOP UNION Volume 06A Page 835

or


PRICE, WILLIAM HENRY mms HAMER
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in WELLINGTON (SALOP) UNION Volume 06A Page 791


or

PRICE, HARRY -
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in WELLINGTON SALOP UNION Volume 06A Page 794

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jan 2021 19:23

If the second birth above;



Possible marriage of parents ??

Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
Hamer Agnes Shiffnal 6a 902
Price Joseph Shiffnal 6a 902


William H. Price
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William H. Price
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Joseph Price
Mother: Agnes Price
Gender: Male
Where born: Wombridge, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Shifnal
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: Oakengates
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration District: Shifnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 2633
Folio: 93
Page Number: 68
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Price 31
Agnes Price 32
Sarah J. Price 6
Albert E. Price 5
Alfred C. Price 4
Ethel C. Price 2
William H. Price 1



EDIT:

BUT NO, his marriage record says his father was Robert.


Anyway, that William Henry is still unmarried in 1901.

William Price
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Price
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Oakengates, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Priors Lee
Ecclesiastical parish: Oakengates Holy Trinity
Town: Oakengates
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration District: Shifnal
Sub-registration District: Shifnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors:
Piece: 2523
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household Schedule Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert E Price 25
Alfred C Price 24
Ellen Price 24
Ethel Price 22
William Price 21
May Price 19
Maude Price 15
Albert C Price 3
Gertrude E Price 9/12
Richard Tomkins 30

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jan 2021 19:38

Also rule out the 1879 Harry above:

Harry Price
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harry Price
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Registration Year: 1879
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Wellington
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 570


That leaves the illegitimate Harry 1880 as a possibility.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jan 2021 11:07

This MIGHT be the illegitimate Harry Price:

Harry Scarrott
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Harry Scarrott
[Harry Price]
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1881
Father: William Scarrott
Mother: Annie Scarrott
Birth Place: Wellington, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Wellington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Residence Place: Wellington, Wellington, Shropshire, England
Registration District: Wellington
Sub registration district: Wellington
ED, Institution or Vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2131
Folio: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
William Scarrott 43
Annie Scarrott 40
William Scarrott 14
Eliza Scarrott 12
Harry Scarrott 10



Against Annie's name, an Ancestry member has added this note:

"Hannah Price rather than Annie Scarrott
The original data on the record is incorrect.
She was not married to William. She had her illgt son Harry Price with her.
Annie was a pet name for Hannah. Later census prove all of this
Submitted by: winterproject on 25/01/2014"



EDIT:

NO, that's not the right Harry.
That one was still single in 1901:

Harry Price
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harry Price
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William Searrott
Mother: Hannah Searrott
Birth Place: Wellington, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Wellington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wellington
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Wellington (Shropshire)
Sub-registration District: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors:
Piece: 2562
Folio: 119
Page Number: 30
Household Schedule Number: 185
Household Members:
Name Age
William Searrott 53
Hannah Searrott 52
Harry Price 22 - single, labourer in timber yard


Oh well, back to the drawing board.