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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jan 2021 14:56

1851 already posted by safc.

But that doesn't fit with my reading of what Caza said -

" . . . they have 3 sons .William b c1812, 1841 1851 and1861 census have them living in western Orkney with his father William until know we believed his mother was jean she doesn't appear on any of the census.1851 there is a Barbara hewison living with them.

To me that means that in 1851 Barbara was with William 1812 and his father.

Perhaps I haven't understood Caza's post.

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jan 2021 14:45

William
Last name Gray
Marriage year 1839
Marriage date 23 Nov 1839
Marriage place Westray And Papa Westray,Orkney,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret
Spouse's last name Hewison
Place Westray and Papa Westray
County Orkney
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jan 2021 14:37

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

North Hammer, Westray, Orkney, Scotland

William Hewison Head Married Male 68 1783 Under Miller Orkney, Scotland
Barbara Hewison Wife Married Female 62 1789 Miller's Wife Orkney, Scotland
William Gray Son-In-Law Married Male 37 1814 Fisherman Orkney, Scotland
Margaret Gray Daughter Married Female 38 1813 Fisherman's Wife Orkney, Scotland
Robert Gray Grand Child Unmarried Male 10 1841 Scholar Orkney, Scotland
William Gray Grand Child - Male 8 1843 Scholar Orkney, Scotland
Thomas Gray Grand Child - Male 6 1845 Scholar Orkney, Scotland
Barbara Gray Grand Child - Female 4 1847 - Orkney, Scotland
James Gray Grand Child - Male 2 1849 - Orkney, Scotland
Jean Gray Grand Child - Female 0 1851 - Orkney, Scotland

caza

caza Report 27 Jan 2021 13:11

Barbara 1851 is 62 living in westray and papa westray number 033/9/3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Jan 2021 12:59

NO sign of a BARBARA with them in 1851...............if you have different info, please C&P

I've looked at FMP.....

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jan 2021 22:53

I'm not quite sure where we're going with this, if anywhere.

In a small community in those days, everyone would be inter-related, and have the same names.

Marriage:

HEWISON
WILLIAM
BARBARA COUPER/FR260 (FR260)
17/11/1811
033/
10 315
Westray and Papa Westray

safc

safc Report 26 Jan 2021 22:52

Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Orkney
Place (Links to more information) Westray
Church name (Links to more information) North Parish
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Baptism date 04 * 1789
Person forename Barbra
Person sex F
Father forename Jerom
Mother forename Christian
Father surname COUPAR
Mother surname HUME
Transcribed by Catherine Jury
File line number 365

safc

safc Report 26 Jan 2021 22:44

Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Orkney
Place (Links to more information) Westray
Church name (Links to more information) North Parish
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Baptism date 14 Mar 1813
Person forename Margaret
Person sex F
Father forename William
Mother forename Barbara
Father surname HEWISON
Mother surname COUPER
Transcribed by Jackie Dinsdale
File line number 1174

safc

safc Report 26 Jan 2021 22:42

Census Year County Census District Civil Parish Piece Enumeration District Page House Number House or Street Name
1841 Orkney Isles (OKI) Westray West 33 1 7 North Hammer
Surname Forenames Sex Age Occupation Birth County Notes
HEWISON William M 55 Farmer OKI
HEWISON Barbra F 50 OKI
HURSTON Jennet F 70 Female Servant OKI
HURSTON David M 65 Dependent OKI

safc

safc Report 26 Jan 2021 22:40

Census Year County Census District Civil Parish Ecclesiastical Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page Schedule House Number House or Street Name
1851 Orkney Isles (OKI) Westray Westray Westray 33 9 17 3 11 North Hammer
Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Sex Age Occupation Birth County Birth Place Disability Notes
HEWISON William Head M M 68 Miller OKI Papa Westray
HEWISON Barbara Wife M F 62 OKI Pharay
GRAY William Sonlaw M M 37 Fisherman OKI Westray
GRAY Margaret Dau M F 38 OKI Westray
GRAY Robert Grnson U M 10 Scholar OKI Westray
GRAY William Grnson - M 8 Scholar OKI Westray
GRAY Thomas Grnson - M 6 Scholar OKI Westray
GRAY Barbara Grndau - F 4 OKI Westray
GRAY James Grnson - M 2 OKI Westray
GRAY Jean Grndau - F 4m OKI Westray

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jan 2021 22:39

This could possibly be the death of Barbara:

HEWISON
BARBARA
66
mmn FERGUS
1855
033/ 13
Westray and Papa Westray

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jan 2021 22:36

Barbara is with William in 1841:

William Hewison
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: William Hewison
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Where born: Orkney and Shetland, Scotland
Civil Parish: Westray
County: Orkney and Shetland
Address: N Hammer
Occupation: Farmer
Parish Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hewison 55
Barbra Hewison 50
Jennet Hurston 70
David Hurston 65


1841 census never gives relationships, so it's impossible to say if she's his wife or not.
Could be his sister.


You say she's with the family in 1851 - but not according to Ancestry's transcription (below).
You need to look at the image of the original on Scotland People to see if the transcription is accurate or not.

William Hewison
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: William Hewison
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relationship: Head
Spouse: Oscilla Hewison
Gender: Male
Where born: Westray, Orkney
Parish Number: 33
Civil Parish: Westray and Papa Westray
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Island of Westray
County: Orkney
Address: North Hammer
Occupation: Farmer (of 40 Acres) No Laborer Employing
ED: 9
Page: 3
Household Schedule Number: 10
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_6
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hewison 38
Oscilla Hewison 39
William Hewison 13
Robert Hewison 8
James Hewison 4


The 1812 baptism showing mother as Jean is the only likely one on SP - but of course other records may not have survived, or other children not have been baptised.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jan 2021 22:29

New thread about William Hewison started by Caza today.

Copying the post here to keep everything together:-

Looking for a fresh pair of eyes for this as going round in circles.William hewison married urcilla Reid they have 3 sons .William b c1812, 1841 1851 and1861 census have them living in western Orkney with his father William until know we believed his mother was jean she doesn't appear on any of the census.1851 there is a Barbara hewison living with them could this be the mother.Scotland's peop?e have a William hewison being born to a jean and another to a Barbara any help appreciated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2021 15:55

That would explain the absence of a marriage record................

safc

safc Report 19 Jan 2021 20:06

Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Orkney
Place (Links to more information) Westray
Church name (Links to more information) North Parish
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Baptism date 1812
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Jean
Father surname HEWISON
Mother surname HEWISON
Notes Natural son
Transcribed by Jackie Dinsdale
File line number 1135

i think natural son means illegitimate in scotland

safc

safc Report 19 Jan 2021 19:00

????

HEWISON

WILL

WILL. HEWISON/JEAN HEWISON FR136 (FR136)

M

24/05/1812

033/

10 126

Westray and Papa Westray

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HEWISON

WILLIAM

WILL. HEWISON/JEAN HEWISON FR157 (FR157)

M

24/05/1812

033/

10 145

Westray and Papa Westray

this is the only william hewison born orkney

to a william and jean

can;t find any other children

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2021 16:57

I can't even see a baptism for the alleged son, never mind any marriage between Harcus and Hewison

caza

caza Report 19 Jan 2021 16:48

William and jean had a son William who married a Ursula Reid but not till the 1830s coincidence there is now anothe urcilla reid!!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Jan 2021 16:30

Related threads about other family members - just to save anyone's time if they stray off the exact question asked:


https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1378410
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1379755
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1299438


There were loads of Harcuses (and other spellings) in Orkney.

Their marriage record (which I can't find so far) won't show their fathers' names.

Possibilities ONLY:

William Hewison
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: William Hewison
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 17 Jun 1781
Event Place: Westray and Papa Westray, Orkney, Scotland
Event Place (Original): Westray and Papa Westray, Orkney, Scotland
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Thomas Hewison
Mother's Name: Merjory Steenson




Janett Hercus
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Janett Hercus
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1780
Baptism Place: Westray and Papa Westray,Orkney,Scotland
Father:
Andrew Hercus
Mother:
Ursla Reid
FHL Film Number: 990518

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Jan 2021 16:26

?????
HARCUS

JEAN

ANDREW HARCUS/JEAN SEATER FR127 (FR127)

F

31/03/1789

033/

10 118

Westray and