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Elizabeth Harper 1885 Cleethorpes

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Megs Dicky Island

Megs Dicky Island Report 18 Feb 2021 18:01

The Chistmas card says to Grandma so it can't be from Elizabeth's brother Fred.
I have all the information on the rest of the family. This cousin I found has some amazing documents. Original certificates galore.

Sorry if I take a while to respond. Looking after an eldery sick relative at the moment.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Feb 2021 17:56

Rose and Elizabeth's sister Alice:

Alice Ann Harper
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alice Ann Harper
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Caistor
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 1269
Records on Page:
Name
Alice Ann Harper
William Lodge


Alice and Walter were living in Cleetherpes in 1901 and 1911.
They had no children.
William's a house painter.

Alice is in Cleethorpes in 1939 - married, but no William with her.

ancestry suggests thhis is William in 1939:

William Lodge
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: William Lodge
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1872
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Dunromin
Residence Place: Norman Cross, Huntingdonshire, England
Occupation: House & Ship Painter
Line Number: 3
Schedule Number: 39
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: TFEH
Borough: Norman Cross
Registration district: 171A/1
Inferred Spouse:
Annie E Lodge
Household Members Age
William Lodge 67 - married
Annie E Lodge 52 - married



Alice Lodge
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Alice Lodge
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: abt 1875
Registration Date: Oct 1944
[Nov 1944]
[Dec 1944]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Grimsby
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 648

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Feb 2021 17:48

Rose Harper
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Rose Harper
Spouse Surname: Kempley
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Grimsby
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 1590
Records on Page:
Name
Rose Harper
Walter Kempley


Rose Kemplay
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Rose Kemplay
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1891
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 29
Residence Place: Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 30
Schedule Number: 169
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: TMEB
Borough: Cleethorpes
Registration district: 422A-1
Inferred Spouse:
Walter Kemplay
Inferred Children:
Walter Kemplay
George Kemplay
Jean Kemplay
Household Members Age
Walter Kemplay 51
Rose Kemplay 48
Walter Kemplay 27
George Kemplay 24
Jean Kemplay 20



Rose Kemplay
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Rose Kemplay
Death Age: 94
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1891
Registration Date: Mar 1985
Registration District: Grimsby
Inferred County: Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 575

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Feb 2021 17:44

1891 and 1901 are posted on page 1.

Here's Rose in 1911:

Rose Harper
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Rose Harper
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Cleethorpes
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Segmere Street Cleethorpes
Marital status: Single
Registration District Number: 422
Sub-registration District: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Piece: 19992
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Harper 69
Mary Jane Harper 64
Fred Harper 28
Rose Harper 20
Alice May Nuttall 4 - grand-daughter [ of Robert & Mary Jane ], Grimsby.



NUTTALL, ALICE MAY mmn HARPER
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in GRIMSBY Volume 07A Page 651


Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Harper Nellie Grimsby 7a 1492
Nuttall Horace Grimsby 7a 1492

Alice May is in Grimsby in 1939, with her mother and siblings.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Feb 2021 17:41

Mother Mary Jane died on 15 Feb 1935 so the Xmas Card would have been sent before that date

Name: Mary Jane Harper
Birth Date: 1848
Birth Place: Fulstow, East Lindsey District, Lincolnshire, England
Death Date: 15 Feb 1935
Death Place: Cleethorpes, North East Lincolnshire Unitary Authority, Lincolnshire, England
Cemetery: Cleethorpes Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Cleethorpes, North East Lincolnshire Unitary Authority, Lincolnshire, England
Has Bio?: N

Kay????

Kay???? Report 18 Feb 2021 17:27

Elizabeth had two sisters, Alice and Rose,have these been explored.?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Feb 2021 17:14

It looks like Elizabeth's brother Fred married Ethel Forman in 1911 in Clee and was here with Ethel in 1939, so perhaps the Christmas card Fred was not Elizabeth's brother.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Feb 2021 16:59

Atchelitz
"Atchelitz is a rural community within the City of Chilliwack in the Eastern Fraser Valley region of British Columbia, Canada. It is located southwest of the city core, to the north of the Vedder Canal."
Wikipedia


Without a surname for Fred, and an exact address in Atchelitz, not to mention a date, it's hard to look for Fred.

On Ancestry there are lots of records for people named Fred or Frederick in various areas of Chilliwack, but I don't see any specifically in Atchelitz.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Feb 2021 16:21

Mary Jane, nee Blood (Fred's Grandma) was Elizabeth's mother

HARPER, ELIZABETH BLOOD
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 682

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Feb 2021 16:03

Do you think that perhaps Fred could be Elizabeth's brother?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Feb 2021 15:50

How lovely to have all these family bibles.

Keep the snippets coming....

It would be good if you could find anything with a date.

Megs Dicky Island

Megs Dicky Island Report 18 Feb 2021 14:40

Found a christmas card now. Looks like it's from Fred who we think must be the son of Elizabeth Harper. It's to his grandma Mary Jane and was in the Blood family bible.
Address Atcheletz, British Columbia, Canada.

Please bear with me I'm liaising with a new cousin I found who has some greeat stuff by the sounds of it.


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Feb 2021 13:07


HOTSON, AMY COLEBROOK
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in GRIMSBY Volume 07A Page 629
Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)
Hotson Amy Redgraves Grimsby 7a 1757
Redgraves Robert Hotson Grimsby 7a 1757


HOTSON, AMY ALICE FORMAN
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in GRIMSBY Volume 07A Page 623
Deaths Jun 1978 (>99%)
HOTSON AMY ALICE 11FE1910 GRIMSBY 7 465

First name(s) Amy
Last name Hotson
Sex Female
Death year 1978
Death date 03 Apr 1978
Place Cleethorpes
Burial ground Cemetery
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Headstone notes A dear aunt
Location Mill Road
Reference Section E, Row U, 284

Megs Dicky Island

Megs Dicky Island Report 18 Feb 2021 12:55

Just found another piece of a letter in a bible. Same address again.
Bible belonged to Amy Hotson, Cleethorpes.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Feb 2021 20:34

No, that's a married woman, with her husband William Harpur, at 5 Latham Avenue.

Elizabeth Harpur
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Elizabeth Harpur
Residence Date: 1957
Residence Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District: Danforth
Reference Number: M-4934

Megs Dicky Island

Megs Dicky Island Report 17 Feb 2021 18:57

Theres a 1957 voters list Elizabeth Harpur?

Megs Dicky Island

Megs Dicky Island Report 17 Feb 2021 18:27

Don't no sorry. Its written on a scrappy bit of paper.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Feb 2021 18:06

When was she said to be there?

It's a most unattractive building, looking at it on Google Streetview.

Megs Dicky Island

Megs Dicky Island Report 17 Feb 2021 17:46

Just been sent an address. 189 Danforth Road, Toronto 13, Ontario, Canada.

Megs Dicky Island

Megs Dicky Island Report 17 Feb 2021 13:30

Thanks everyone. Sorry been offline. The post card is still being searched for.